@robinsyl I am convinced that #Valve is gonna try to seriously support #ARM & #Linux longterm because they don't want to depend upon #amd64 / #ix86 & #Windows for survival and profit.

  • I'm shure the same engineers who cooked up the #SteamFrame work hard on supporting mainstream ARM devices like the #Pi500Plus, because the more platforms #Steam can serve a decent amount of their catalog the easier it is for them to make money.

And in the end that's what they care about...

  • Tho I don't put my hopes up high re: any new devices and espechally not reasonable pricing, cuz the "#AIbubble" and the #PriceFixing tripol of #RAM [Chip] manufacturers are currently busy #scalping RAM & #Flash into unobtainable amounts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hLiwNViMak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A-eeJP0J7c

When the #SteamMachine was announced everyone with a calculator could see this is ginna be a $/€ 749,-- #GabeCube because unlike any #GameConsole they explicitly refuse to go with the "Razer & Blades- Model" and sell the device at a loss.

  • At the current prediction and RAM prices everyone not deranged expects this to be a $/€ 999,99 box if Valve preordered enough RAM to have an inventory cushion at launch.

And with the current price developments I'd not be surprised if sooner or later devices get stolen just to rip the RAM & SSD out of them and distribute them second hand like weed to a coffeeshop in Amsterdam.

RAM: WTF?

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@mrmasterkeyboard @hexaheximal In terms of architectures I'm mostly limited by time, hardware that I have access to and toolchain support.

#OS1337 on #Xenon is quite low on the list but still not on the bottom because I have systems in my possession. Unlike "normal" #32bit #PowerPC systems.

  • Mind you I have exactly 0 "#PowerSaving" or other energy optimizations in _OS/1337 (or even multithreading) support built-in, which on most modern systems results in dogshit performance below rated base clock because modern CPUs and Chipsets expect the OS to communicate with them and if it doesn't they gonna assume the OS is fubar and drop into failsafe modes. With some luck they may even prevent the CPU from frying itself and turn on the fan on their own.

I don't have much hands-on aside from mainstream #ix86 / #x86 / #amd64 Systems and #ARMv5r11 / #ARM64 SBCs.

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@slaine But alas since #VIA isn't interested in making money with #ix86 / #amd64 c ompatible chips (or rather sold of that division to China) I'm gonna do something else...
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@krutonium @landley I mean, Ideally @OS1337 would be come a simpler and better alternative to #LinuxFromScratch or #YoctoLinux / #YoctoProject when it comes to getting started on a device.

Cuz #RaspberryPi de-facto monopolized non-#amd64 / non-#ix86 - #SBCs because they actually give a shit and publish #documentation!

  • So whilst they certainly don't support other OSes than #RaspberryPiOS, they don't just tell folks like @geerlingguy to not pester them with questions in their Forums.

@rl_dane @OS1337 well, MDA as in the standard that every PC graphics card since the #MDA still supports - not just VGA

  • For #Terminals the 25th (rarely "0th") line is used to display status information in lieu of "lock lights" or other indicators so unlike on a #PC it's not useable there...

Obviously one can set / customize the default Terminal Output Size in the #Kernel configs at build, but #80x25 (or at least #80x24) should be supported everywhere.

  • Actual MDA displays are expensive collectibles and in lieu of that I'd rather configure the 1st serial port ( tty0 aka. COM1) to spit out a 9600/8/N/1 #console when #VGA or similar video output doesn't exist.

But even the shittiest GPU will do MDA without drivers on #ix86 & #amd64 because that's some #BIOS routine command and part of the backwards compatibility of every single 2D/graphics chip I've heard of that isn's a mere 3D accelerator with 2D passhtrough

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@timixretroplays yeah, I guess this shows @rasteri build this before businesses started upgrading tech.

I wished DM&P / ICOP would increase production or that there was an easier way to get other #ix86 SBCs from like #VIA (remember when they made #CUP|s?) or some #embedded variants from #Intel or #AMD.

#DOSBOX or similar do work well, but they don't provide the necessary I/O for a lot of use-cases.

Maybe you can drop in a different #Vortex86 which also has #ISA?

  • I know there are also Vortex86EX2 and others that may be an option...
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@miyuru AFAICT #Ubuntu did drop #ix86 in favour of #amd64 some time ago.

  • Personally I do want to continue working on an #i486-supporting distro with #OS1337...

@cleverboi @FandaSin @BrodieOnLinux @neal to answer your question stuff like @rasteri 's #Wee86 * & #WeeCee ** are quite common in #embedded & #industrial setups because as much superior the #Atom Z520 and E3815 are, these have been discontinued unlike the #Vortex86 SoCs!

Yes, I hate #Microsoft & dislike the fact that people.use #MSDOS despite it being deprecated longer than #WindowsXP exists but someone's gotta have to do #DataRecovery or at least #backup & #restore said systems' drives...
https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114738983433662865

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@kkarhan@infosec.space From programmer POV it makes sense. It's harder to maintain code for more different types of CPUs and it really hard to test it, because HW is not that common so anyone can test it. But I can understand your POV too. Where do you have running 486? (how do you use it?) @BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social @neal@social.gompa.me

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@a1ba unsarcastically, I like that.

Won't run Crysis, but will run @OS1337!

@qlp @Natanox @wyatt yeah, heard of those from folks who did very old #pfSense-based #DIY Routers back when it still supported #ix86 machines and old used thinkpads were still cheap af.