@quad and even as cards they get cheap.

Intel replaced their #i210 / #i219 with #i225 and #Realtek released their #RTL8125

@k4m1 @stman yeah, according to the #RTL8139 #datasheet this is basically a very cheap 10/100M NIC designed #embedded systems and low-end/low-cost desktops, and for a device designed and sold in 2006 it made sense, given back then #Gigabit-#Ethernet and Cat.5 cabling was considered high-end.

  • And unlike contemporary / successor chips by #Intel like the famous #i210 (which is still offered as #i219 but mostly succeeded by the #i225 as a 2,5GBase-T version) is way cheaper, which pre-#RoHS - NICs being sold for like € 10 retail & brand-new....

The few issues known only affect like #Virtualization setups, a market this thing was never designed for (most likely also never tested against).

  • I'd not he surprised if a lot of cheap #ThinClients and other systems used these NICs because of the simplicity of integration, being a cheap 3,3V single-chip (+auxilliary electronics) solution and propably costling less than 10¢ on a reel of 10.000.

It's the reason why to this day we see #Realtek NICs being shipped instead of fanning-out & enabling #SoC-integrated NICs with a #MAC & #PHY instead: Because the auxilliary parts for those are more expensive than just getting a PCI(e lane) somewhere and plonking it down.

  • Maybe there have even been some really cheap, low-end #Routers / #Firewalls aiming at #SoHo customers back in those days, cuz back then 16MBit/s #ADSL2 was considered fast, and Realtek's NICs up until recently only delivered like 60-75% of the max. speed advertised, so by the time someone would notice, that gearvwould've been EoL'd anyway and those who did notice right-away never were the target audience to begin with.

Most modern NICs are more complex and demand more configuration / driver support...

@pmdj me neither, but I considered them on several occasions as they proudly advertise the use of #i210 or even #i225 NICs and if I had to rebuilt my current setup I'd likely chose one of those if not a 1U version...

There are some even with 10GBit/s NICs [usually an intel #X540 2-port SFP+ card] cuz that would make sense.

Also the #i350-T4 I use has been scalped to 3x it's price when I built that system.

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Some !SoCal #High_Desert and #Intermediate_Desert locations have had a little snow recently. It isn’t really a big deal. We used to get 1-2 inches of snow several times per year, even as late as the 3rd week of May.

This is more like a return to the recent normal for an El Niño year than an “OMG we’re all going to die!” moment. (There have been times when it snowed a little on the #I-210 from around Glendale to Azusa, so it isn’t unknown in the #Los_Angeles area, either.)
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#faveNephew was involved in a collision on #I-210 in !SoCal last night. His mother says he's okay, but he'll have to replace the car quickly, since his job involves driving to visit clients' homes.
@kai Entering convo late, with only partial view of what came before. But your ref to the cost of building a Santa Monica commuter rail line brings up a question that we may not be able to quickly or easily answer. How does that compare with the per-mile cost of extending the #I-210 freeway from the #CA-57 to the #I-15? The cost may or may not seem more reasonable when we compare with contemporary projects.
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