Show threadanon_4601Feb 25

@klu9 @Jami

I have updated the Mastodon links in message 10. Thank you very much!
And I'm going to check out #Jami and #Qaul, which I don't know. THX!

Show threadklu9Feb 25

@anon_4601

Excellent thread! Thanks so much for explaining the usage, pros & cons of these #IM /communication systems!

Personally, I've been leaning towards something #P2P (cut out all the issues related to servers) & can still work when the Internet is down (in our case, due to tech problems not politics) but still have WiFi etc

Like:
#Briar
#Jami (open source, Canada) @Jami
#Qaul (open source; Switzerland?) https://github.com/qaul/qaul.net

(PS the Mastodon links in post 10 aren't currently linked)

GitHub - qaul/qaul.net: Internet Independent Wireless Mesh Communication App

Internet Independent Wireless Mesh Communication App - qaul/qaul.net

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Show threadanon_4601Feb 25

BONUS: OFFLINE WARRIORS (P2P & MESH) 🛡️📡
When internet is cut, these apps create networks via Bluetooth & Wi-Fi Direct. No servers, pure P2P

🥉 #BRIAR 🇬🇧
The ultimate tool for protesters. Mesh Network (phone-to-phone). Messages hop between devices if internet fails. No central point. Open Source @briar

🥉 #JAMI 🇨🇦
Video, Audio & Chat 100% decentralized. Uses Distributed Hash Tables, no servers. Works on local Wi-Fi offline. Secure calls w/o phone number @Jami

🥉 #QAUL 🇨🇭
Internet-independent communication. Pure mesh for disaster zones or total shutdowns. Community-driven

Perfect for emergencies, protests, or natural disasters when the grid is down🌪️📵

Hope this helps escape Big Tech & embrace free alternatives. Take back sovereignty before a blond fascist presses the red🛑button!

discussed apps and Mastodon links:
@session @delta @threemaapp @element @matrix @briar

Know other projects?Share below!👇🌍

10/10 the end

#MeshNetwork #P2P #OfflineChat #Jami #Briar #Qaul #EmergencyComms

Show threadanon_4601Feb 24

BONUS: GUERRIERI OFFLINE (P2P & MESH) 🛡️📡

Se internet cade, queste app creano reti tramite Bluetooth e Wi-Fi Direct.Nessun server, puro P2P

🥉 #BRIAR 🇬🇧
Strumento definitivo per i manifestanti. Mesh Network (da telefono a telefono). Messaggi saltano tra dispositivi se internet va giù. Nessun punto centrale. OpenSource @briar

🥉 #JAMI 🇨🇦
Video, Audio, Chat 100% decentralizzati. Tabelle Hash Distribuite, nessun server. Funziona su Wi-Fi locale offline. Chiamate sicure senza n. @Jami

🥉 #QAUL 🇨🇭
Comunicazione indipendente da internet. Mesh pura per zone di disastro o blackout totali. Guidato dalla comunità

Perfetto per emergenze, proteste o disastri quando la rete è giù 🌪️📵

Spero che questo aiuti a fuggire da Big Tech e ad abbracciare alternative libere. Riprendiamoci la sovranità prima che un fascista biondo prema il tasto rosso 🛑!

App e link Mastodon:
@session @delta @threemaapp @element @matrix @briar

Conoscete altri progetti? Condivideteli qui sotto!👇️🌍️

10/10 fine

Briar ProjectDec 14

Are you coming to #39C3 this year? We'd love to see you there!

https://events.ccc.de/congress/2025/hub/de/event/detail/secure-offline-communications-whats-next

Edit: Find us on day 2 at 15:45 in the lovely @HouseOfTea.

#briar #mesh #p2p #meshtastic #qaul #bridgefy #tor #decentralization

[39c3] Secure Offline Communications: What's Next?

It's the end of 2025 and digital authoritarianism becomes only ever more sophisticated. We want to use this opportunity to pause and reflect: how is the situation for citizens in different contexts around the world? What are people's actual needs?...

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Show threadQapy 🦋Sep 7, 2025
@AliveDevil or have a #Freifunk net, and use #qaul for everything, does voice and messaging
Show threadQapy 🦋Jul 30, 2025
@richardwonka @ahaldorsen #qaul messenger is planning to work on a multipurpose BLE mesh library, which can be repurposed for stuff like that. BLE is a messy conglomerate of many standards, making it a rather extensive task to create a unified lib out of that mess...
depending on chip and protocol, BLE can reach more than 1km, so its quite capable if you got it right. Looking forward to see that in #Reticulum!
Show threadT_XMar 25, 2025
@Polychrome #Qaul comes to my mind, it's in development for quite some time: https://qaul.net/. But haven't really used it myself yet. What I did use successfully is @mwarning 's simplistic #Meshenger: https://github.com/meshenger-app/meshenger-android
But despite its name it doesn't have a built-in #mesh feature, you'd need to use it over a layer 2 #MeshNetwork like @batadv / #Freifunk. Similarly, for texting instead of voice @pidgin's #Bonjour Chat comes to my mind (but I think there is no Android app for it yet?)
qaul – قول

Internet independent wireless mesh communication app

qaul – قول
Show threadT_XMar 14, 2025
@grimmy @pidgin really like this idea, to create a wrapper lib for #mDNS to make it platform independent around well tested, platform specific libs. #rust #libp2p tries to fully reimplement #mDNS, but I had several blocking issues with it when tried to use it on the #Qaul messenger: https://github.com/libp2p/rust-libp2p/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aopen%20author%3AT-X
Your wrapper sounds like once it works it'll really work, with a lot less bugs.
Issues · libp2p/rust-libp2p

The Rust Implementation of the libp2p networking stack. - Issues · libp2p/rust-libp2p

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T_XJan 6, 2025

Also reported the two issues we experienced with #Qaul and #mDNS to the underlying #rust #libp2p a few days ago. And already got promising feedback. Hopefully we will be able to use Qaul's #mDNS based peer discovery soon in our #Gluon / @batadv based #Freifunk networks once they get addressed:
https://github.com/libp2p/rust-libp2p/issues/5783
https://github.com/libp2p/rust-libp2p/issues/5790

#IPv6 #multicast #offthegrid #mesh #meshnetwork

mDNS is using the wrong / only one interface with IPv6 on Linux · Issue #5783 · libp2p/rust-libp2p

Summary Problem We tried using Qaul.net, which uses rust-libp2p, via mDNS with IPv6 enabled through the following commit/branch: qaul/[email protected]_IPv6 We observed the issue on a desktop Li...

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