Jan Vlug6d ago

"Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone"

https://www.theregister.com/2026/05/01/buy_a_foss_fondleslab/

I use a #Librem5 #Linux #phone. With the default #PureOS operating system.

Enjoy your #freedom, break free from #Google and #Apple.

Have a full Linux computer in your pocket that you can also use for calling.

Questions? Ask me.

#opensource #digitalsovereignty #FOSS #MobileLinux #privacy

Where to buy a non-Apple, non-Google smartphone

: Both Cupertino and Google are imposing ever stricter limits on their phones – but you have alternatives

The Register
Show threadKhleedril
@janvlug Is encrypted messaging available? Signal?
May 2 at 6:41pmWeb
Show threadJan Vlug4d ago

@khleedril I use Signal Desktop on the #Librem5, installed as #flatpak (unofficial).

Apparently, @signalapp is working towards having Signal Desktop fully independent of the Android and iOS apps.

See also: https://aboutsignal.com/news/signal-desktop-without-a-mobile-phone-standalone-version-in-development/

Signal Desktop without a mobile phone, standalone version in development

Signal is working on a standalone version of its desktop app that does not require a mobile phone. Signal Desktop will also gain additional options when used as a linked device.

AboutSignal
Show threadDavid Heidelberg4d ago
@janvlug @khleedril @signalapp I wouldn't recommend compromising Signal's security by using third-party builds. Sadly, the arm64 Electron version isn't fixed yet (same problem on my Asahi laptop), and it's hard to say when it will be. For now, I use Flare—the only missing feature is calls, which I really miss.
Show threadJan Vlug4d ago

@okias @khleedril @signalapp

I agree on the fact that using third-party builds imposes a risk. Unfortunately, Signal has not been very #MobileLinux friendly. But I think things are getting better and better. There is als an official #appimage in the making. Not sure if it will run on arm64 though.

https://aboutsignal.com/news/major-expansion-of-signal-for-linux-announces-appimage/

Show threadDavid Heidelberg4d ago
@janvlug @khleedril @signalapp it's same underlying tech (e.g. Electron), thus no. There is open bug about arm64, but not much progress there.
Show threadJan Vlug4d ago

@okias

For info: https://github.com/signalflatpak/signal

@khleedril @signalapp

GitHub - signalflatpak/signal: Flatpak builds for Signal, from source

Flatpak builds for Signal, from source. Contribute to signalflatpak/signal development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub
Show threadhaagch4d ago

@janvlug @khleedril @signalapp Oh cool, I did not expect them to actually start caring about letting people who don't use Android or iOS to communicate with people who do.

Third party clients had constantly been broken when it comes to account creation, so I figured Signal actively doesn't want me on their service by keeping account creation a moving target, and never bothered with it.

Still feels like federated Matrix has the better model (maybe not implementation) though.

Show threadDebacle4d ago

@khleedril @janvlug

If you like to avoid #bigTech, you might like to avoid Signal, too, which is entirely based on AWS and Google.

I suggest #Dino by @dino (i.e. #Jabber/#XMPP), which works pretty great on #mobileLinux. Friends on Android and iOS can use #Conversations_im and #Monal, respectively.

Show threadKhleedril4d ago
@debacle @janvlug @dino I'd be happy to use anything that gives me end-to-end encrypted voice, though right now Signal is the only one I really trust to do it right.
Show threadDebacle4d ago

@khleedril @janvlug @dino

Encrypted A/V calls should work between #Conversations_im, #Dino, and #Monal. Also #Kaidan, #Movim, etc. At least one-to-one. Not sure about small groups (3..4), though. AFAIK, both Movim and #Libervia are working on support for larger A/V groups (≥ 5).