What I REALLY want to know about the news-behind-the-news is, why is Melania suddenly holding press conferences to say that she didn't know nothin' about Jeffrey Epstein and *especially* wasn't having a relationship with him?

I mean, with the right it's ALWAYS projection, right? So if she runs true to form for a conservative this probably means she had an affair with Ghislaine Maxwell.

@cstross - She's certainly throwing her husband under the bus here, both by bringing up this dreaded topic at all and second by never saying *he* was innocent of anything. And Trump claims he hadn't known she was going to make this announcement. Even if he's lying, as the report here suggests, that's a weird thing to say.

https://people.com/donald-trump-tells-reporter-he-didn-t-know-anything-about-melania-s-epstein-remarks-before-she-went-live-11947099

@johncarlosbaez @cstross

Current speculation is that due to legal discovery in her Michael Wolff lawsuit, embarrassing new evidence has come to light and she has been instructed to get in front of it.

@cstross I suspect this is part of her exit plan -- get Donnie so worked up and frothing he has a heart attack and kicks it. This was her absolutely and intentionally knifing him, metaphorically at least, and while she's horrible people she's also ruthless people and clever people.

I rather look forward to the infighting which I'm sure has already commenced.

@cstross I rarely look at Threads but this backstory of a model friend of Melania getting deported by ICE, now with nothing to lose, so she’s naming names crystallized why Melania is trying to deny the truth as it gets out https://www.threads.com/@lavishtantrums/post/DW711k2jFie?xmt=AQF0uhFsXdV1o9yEgtMv0vKX8Kwj6cvRnYFgBWTsXK2Tx2QakUh_l4Hr4i32F4CHPsWd_pgj&slof=1
Christine Brandt (@lavishtantrums) on Threads

Here is a quick primer on the developing Melania Trump drama. Today, Melania called a press conference to deny association with Jeffrey Epstein, blast stories linking her to Epstein, deny that she was his victim or that Epstein introduced her to Trump, and to call for public hearings for Epstein victims. These comments were ostensibly out of the blue and unlinked to any specific development. Stories linking Melania to Epstein have circulated for years. Why deny them now? ⬇️

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'Be Careful With Me, B**': Melania Trump Receives Brutal Warning From Amanda Ungaro—Who Is She?

Amanda Ungaro, deported to Brazil in 2025 after a clash with a Trump envoy, has warned Melania Trump of legal action a day before the First Lady's Epstein speech.

International Business Times UK
@mathowie @cstross that makes more sense now.

@JoBlakely @mathowie @cstross

oh if that's the reason for Melania's surprise presser, that makes everything so much more delicious. She really doesn't care one iota for her orange husband. I mean we all kinda knew, and he's someone worth throwing under the bus, but her complete self-obsessed protection is definitely throwing hubs under the bus.

Oh, the poor WH cleaning staff, so much ketchup to clean off the walls. Maybe those gold painted Home Depot detail motifs can be thrown in the wash?

@mathowie @cstross And if someone wants a link with less tracking data, here it is: https://www.threads.com/@lavishtantrums/post/DW711k2jFie
Christine Brandt (@lavishtantrums) on Threads

Here is a quick primer on the developing Melania Trump drama. Today, Melania called a press conference to deny association with Jeffrey Epstein, blast stories linking her to Epstein, deny that she was his victim or that Epstein introduced her to Trump, and to call for public hearings for Epstein victims. These comments were ostensibly out of the blue and unlinked to any specific development. Stories linking Melania to Epstein have circulated for years. Why deny them now? ⬇️

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@mathowie @cstross
The hypocrisy on display is so blatant. Even writing in jest produce unexpected results.

https://mastodon.social/@wtrmt/116330159788554575

@mathowie @cstross I so hope there is some truth there…
@cstross I suppose at least it's going to be a sign that there's been some social progress that we've gotten all the way to hearing a scandalized US first lady saying "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!".
@cstross It probably means she was *apprenticed* to Ghislaine Maxwell.

@cstross Or she had in fact nothing to do with the sexual abuse, but _was_ having the corpses rendered down for otherwise unobtainable sourced-from-human-tissue anti-aging cosmetics. And she wants people to know that of course she would never be so déclassé as to ask about where the young pretty corpses were coming from.

If it isn't something somehow specifically excruciatingly embarrassing to the surviving principals, it's something your editor would never let you keep in the text.

@graydon @cstross Damn, I was going for ‘distraction from soviet agent rumours’.

@graydon @cstross

If we ever find out the truth and it even mentions adrenochrome, I am going to be extremely sad. I cannot handle a situation where the Q people were right, even by default.

@passenger @graydon The pizzagate bullshit was just recycling and updating the old anti-semitic Blood Libel. (Pizza: flatbread. Blood libel: matzo supposedly being baked with Christian children's blood. Pizzagate: a pizza parlour where children are abused underground. Spot the similarity?)
@cstross @passenger @graydon
Even further back: Romans claiming Christian were consuming children's blood in the catacombs; once in power themselves the Christians then recycled it against the Jews.
@HighlandLawyer @passenger @graydon Yup: I suspect it goes back even further than that, too.
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@cstross @passenger @graydon

Huh. Looka that.

Of course, I always suspect them of antisemitism at some level, conscious or unconscious. That's just the Correct Default Position for guessing what most right-wingers think.

But I hadn't seen the structural, point-for-point analogy to blood libel.

It's... both disgusting and... *unoriginal*.

They can't even make up their own conspiracies!

@passenger In a patriarchal context, feminine power consists of who you are able to refuse.

The idea of not being able to refuse Jeffery Epstein despite a decades-long marriage to Trump (and all the personal and emotional costs that implies) would rankle; it's putting her back in the context of disposable prettiness which can be rendered down for cosmetics and no one cares. All this suffering has to be worth something.

Especially if in fact she couldn't and now everyone will know.

@cstross

@cstross They are playing 3D-chess… The attack on Iran was a diversion, so people don't talk about Epstein anymore - this is a diversion so people stop talking about Iran. Masterful gambit!

@nblr @cstross
> 3D-chess

Oh, 3D? Chess?

5-Dementia Checkers.

What exactly is "a relationship"?

So many possibilities.

@cstross

@cstross This apparently explains it for people who keep up with Epstein stuff.

@sysadmin1138 @cstross

Her asshole husband Zampoli got her deported and was palling it up with Vance in Hungary this week too.

@cstross

Possibly she doesn't want to be turned into golf course fertiliser as described here:

https://shows.acast.com/blindboy/episodes/effrey-jepstein

#epstein

A deep dive into Effrey Jepstein | The Blindboy Podcast

Redacted

@cstross I think she is depth charging Mr. TACO's underwater presidency.

@cstross She may be trying to get ahead of news that's going to come out about Donald Trump and his connection with Epstein.

Or it may be she was deeper in than we know. She may have known details of Epstein's trafficking. She may even have helped lure other girls into his net.

Anyway, I'm off to make popcorn...

@cstross

Nixon: "I am not a crook."

Melania: "I have never been legally accused or convicted of a crime in connection with Epstein’s sex trafficking, abuse of minors, and other repulsive behavior."

@cstross

She probably wants to head off any accusations so that she doesn't get in trouble with SVR's HR department for dating a co-worker.

@cstross

My guess is that some Epstein victims are soon going to come out and accuse Melania of having recruited them as maids or some such, only to sell them later as sexual slaves to Epstein and company.

@cstross

She had a terrible personal poll come out just before that apparently. I think she's oblivious AF and comes by it genuinely, just realized she was tanking...

@EricBono She's not running for office. Apparently this is about the lawsuit(s) between the Trumps and biographer Michael Wolff, which hit the discovery stage not long ago so there's lots of dirt about to come out in the wash.

@cstross

>She's not running for office.

No, but I did see a blurb on that existing.

That makes sense. Wolff really gets under their skin. Good for him. So, she obviously had way more of a relationship with Epstein/Maxwell than previously realized. Like you say, projection. I bet she's way more implicated in assisting trafficking and that's one of the reasons Donnie is so darn prickly on the subject.

@EricBono @cstross

What are the odds this all traces back to some Washington pizza parlour?

@f800gecko @cstross

Good Lord, insanely accurate

This relationship she didn't have, did she not have it a long time ago, or did she not have it, like, really really recently?
@cstross
@BenAveling If she had a relationship with Epstein after 2018 she could presumably be prosecuted for necrophilia?

With so many zombies wandering around above ground, there's a few you could charge with that.

@cstross

@BenAveling

I love posts where I don't have to scroll back to figure out the topic.

@cstross

@cstross

Maybe what she fears is people becoming aware that his husband was used to go to Epstein to get women, she is a woman, and his husband got her, so maybe it was a match made through Epstein Women Catalog for Gentlemen.

Just saying.

@cstross 2 theories:

1. She's trying to give her husband a heart attack by bringing up the #EpsteinFiles so she can just get her inheritance already and stop having to pretend to like him
2. She's been taking PR advice from Barbara Streisand

@statsguy A heart attack would argue the existence of a heart. Similarly, an aneurysm would argue the existence of a brain.

She may be hoping for some sort of fatal dyspepsia though.

@cstross

@cstross
I'm told there is a reason offered here
https://www.threads.com/@lavishtantrums/post/DW711k2jFie

One of her model friends has been deported, and need no longer stay quiet.

Christine Brandt (@lavishtantrums) on Threads

Here is a quick primer on the developing Melania Trump drama. Today, Melania called a press conference to deny association with Jeffrey Epstein, blast stories linking her to Epstein, deny that she was his victim or that Epstein introduced her to Trump, and to call for public hearings for Epstein victims. These comments were ostensibly out of the blue and unlinked to any specific development. Stories linking Melania to Epstein have circulated for years. Why deny them now? ⬇️

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@cstross I see that another reply mentions Amanda Ungaro. ICE was holding her for months under terrible conditions until she agreed to leave the country recently. Probably not a wise move on their part to do this to someone who Knows Shit.

@cstross

I have an alternative hypothesis.

I suspect she wants all of DT's money.

If he dies -- and he will, soon, obviously -- the money gets split up according to his will, which probably doesn't do much for her.

If she divorces him, the prenup controls. Again, not so much.

But if he goes to prison, she can almost certainly have the pre-nup broken, and in New York and Florida, business interests are generally considered part of an equitable settlement.

So it is to her advantage, I think, to get him imprisoned and divorced, in that order, ASAP.

I wonder if she has a clever lawyer who doesn't report to DT?

@dashdsrdash @cstross No chance of getting him imprisoned, sadly. The Supreme Court have pretty much said in so many words that he's above the law.

Maybe the will isn't too mean to her?

@statsguy @dashdsrdash @cstross Or she found a way to get him to rewrite it favorably? He is a couple of bits short of a byte, after all.

Or maybe she's in cahoots with the lawyer that drafted the agreements. Who knows.

@dashdsrdash @cstross

I knew someone who was convinced to move from Florida to California and then understood, after the fact, that the real motivation lay in the fine points of divorce law. Something or other to do with joint property I believe.

(Also the basis of that particular relationship, in the beginning, was their lack of a common language.)

@dashdsrdash @cstross
Truely, she has internalised the values of America. I think she is just protecting herself against ICE deportation under President Vance. (He needs a nickname, BTW. How about "Peter Thiel"? Vance-pyre?)

I mean, she's going to get detained - too well-tanned. But such a true American - no deportation.

@dashdsrdash

Write the script! I might go to THAT movie.

@dashdsrdash @cstross

Finding a lawyer who isn't "dirty" would be a problem.

@dashdsrdash @cstross i think this is like that time she wore the “i really don’t care” coat. I think she just does stuff, a bit slow in response to events, and her actions don’t make a lot of sense to thinking people

@cstross

There's a story out today about a former friend whose ex-husband was their photographer back in the day. The couple were involved in a custody battle and he got ICE involved to deport her, with Melania's help maybe. The woman's been posting threats to Mel from Brazil about "spilling things."

@cstross Her "Not involved in human trafficking" press conference certainly does have people asking a lot of questions already answered by her press conference.
@Grouchybeast @cstross Maybe she has always, since being an Epstein-adjacent young target, had a desire to be a Barbera Streisand impersonator?