RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116368379234020589

here it goes:

what surprises me about the #fediverse is the diversity of ages. am turning 60 and there’s A LOT of folks here 10-20 years older.

so if #Mastodon #Lemmy #Pixelfed aren't just scripty kids but also grandparents, who’s here?

people finding their communities without shitty techbro algorithms.

the fediverse is a new era of #Luddites. we are not here to serve the interests of capitalists. we’re here for the #anarchy of community; because celebrating our Humanity is punk as fuck.

@blogdiva
Yes!

For me, the Fedi is real and aspirational at the same time. It is important not just because of what it is (and falls short in many ways) but because of what you and I and many others believe it could be and should be and must continue to move towards.

@blogdiva
[Minor edit to correct typos]
@blogdiva I feel the #fediverse is comprised of people whose only agenda to push is knowledge.
@timo21 That explains a lot (and it's true). Actually knowing stuff has been going out of fashion for a while. Trump and the AI bubble are symptoms. When those both end up crashing horribly, I think maybe people will want to know stuff again. @blogdiva

@timo21
🎯 Exactly. And I love it!

@blogdiva

@timo21 @blogdiva
My last 10 and next 20 shitposts would like to have word with you.

@blogdiva @_elena I whole heartily agree. And I’m an Old here. I originally joined the Fediverse in 2917 on an Instance that wasn’t very active so I rarely interacted and posted.

But just prior to the first wave of massive Twitter migration I checked back in to find out I had 24 hours left to move to a new instance. Boy oh boy, my new home was actually not a place I wanted to hang out locally. So I quickly learned to build my Home stream by following interesting people and interacting with them by comments, shares (boosts) and then I saw interesting people there who also,like me, had commented. My Home stream became my first read of the day when I checked in.

Now, where did I find those people? Why that would be the open source Wild West of the Fediverse. The numbers of people posting made a fast moving stream and I could pop over to any interesting post and there were my People! My Tribe is on open source social media and I found them! What a joy.

After a few months I refined my streams to appear in column view, 3 columns across: Home, Local, Fediverse. After a year I found out about Lists and by golly, I could put a List as another stream in a column! My “rock people” are in one, my personal friends in another, my “news people” another. Wowie, I’m making my own algorithm for me, me alone, and it works well. I no longer miss current posts from people I care most about. Yes Antifa Lisa, I’m here for the #Anarchy and #PunkAsFunk. Go Fediverse! Go Mastodon! Go beige.party which is my Instance and #NotACult

@cobalt123 @blogdiva @_elena Our first time traveller from the future here to warn us!
@blogdiva 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

@blogdiva Ha, presumably you've already seen this perfect encapsulation of the fediverse as being punk as fuck?

https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/115812058723304135

RE: https://rustedneuron.com/@jackwilliambell/116358781100014322

@blogdiva

I've been here since 2018 and I'm a year and two months from 70; I have grandkids old enough I'm concerned I will soon adding 'great' to my family title.

Of course, the difference between me and the other grandparents still using the facesite? I'm a coder and software designer and at times in my career got to see how the privacy invasive sausage was made.

My somewhat sweary take on the recent 'what is the Fedi about' discussions here:

@blogdiva
There's a lot of stuff here that can't be found on other social sites, a variety of interests with which to engage people who are happy to engage back.
@blogdiva Quelque endroit ou on peut tourner Latin à la plaisanterie donne moi plaisir. Any place that laughs when you make a joke about Latin is the place for me. And yes I am a grandparent in a multi-gen ADU/big house family unit. @_elena
@blogdiva
right and very well said!
turning 60 also and there's a lot of people 10-20 years younger too! it's wonderful `w;7[)
@blogdiva awww I love this liza 💖 thank you for sharing these thoughts (and for being here!)
@_elena i love that you’re out there doing the work. thank you 🥰

@blogdiva
Pretty much the same for me: I don't want to have my social interactions mediated by an algorithm that is only thinking about optimizing profit.

Mastodon is a break from the ceaseless bargaining and hyper optimizations of pretty much everything else I could interact with. 99% argument free; the lack of reach is a feature, not a bug.

cc @_elena

Je ne parlez pas Francais. Tres desole.

@flipper @blogdiva @_elena

Je ne "parle" pas français.

Désolé... 🤪

@davep
I think that was my point :)
@blogdiva @_elena

@flipper @blogdiva @_elena Yeah, sorry 🤪

If I can't show off my vaguely proficient french here though, where can I?! 😁

@davep
Please do, don't let my incompetence get in the way.

@blogdiva @_elena

@flipper @blogdiva @_elena
I'm feeling a bit daft at this point, but thanks anyway 😊
@blogdiva Perhaps show the work of some the wonderful photographers on mastodon.
@blogdiva I'm 64.
@IveyJanette @blogdiva would not have guessed! Aren’t we all very mature, well read, knowledgeable 27 yr olds? (I’m 58)
@IcooIey @blogdiva I still get carded. 😂
@IveyJanette @IcooIey @blogdiva In the sweet spot of still occasionally getting carded and sometimes given the senior discount

@callan @IcooIey @blogdiva I get both.

Not drinking or smoking helps. Plus getting out of South Central LA also helped.

@blogdiva I turned 79 this year, and I am glad to be here in the #fediverse with all of you.
@blogdiva great speech! Cannot promise not to stole it :)

@blogdiva I'm in my early 30s, for whatever that's worth, and I mainly use the Fediverse for posting cute art I make, or at least that's what I use Friendica, Mastodon, and Pixelfed for primarily.

The Fediverse is sorely missing a DeviantArt equivalent, though, as I've effectively abandoned my 16-year-old DA account at this point; I'm keeping it around for posterity, but I'm no longer actively posting there and haven't really been active there for years now.

I recently updated by bio on there to acknowledge this and point to the places where I actively post now, those being Blacksky, Pixelfed, Mastodon, and Friendica.

@dfx4509b @blogdiva I think this is because, at least from what I've seen, a lot of folks here don't differentiate their art styles/types. They don't say "here's my art and over here is my secret, sexy art". They just post all their art in the same space and CW when appropriate.

That, coupled with how easy it is to create a second account on a separate instance for those who DO want the separation between their regular posts and their niche posting, is why I think there aren't those separate spaces all the time. No corporate overlords around here asking for things to be "cleaned up" so they can attract more advertisers/ "protect" the children. Your instance/admin either allows those posts or they don't. Simple as.

@blogdiva

As a 30 y.o. Brazilian, I'd add that there's breadth of nationalities as well, even though most Fediverse instances are often biased to a defaultist, US-centric worldview.

And such an existence of biases leads me to a point of your post:

people finding their communitiesWhich, unfortunately, haven't been my case. Even when it comes to the aspect that has been the most important of my existence in the recent years, spirituality, those who could share a similar (syncretic) belief seem to be mostly at Facebook, TikTok and Telegram, platforms I permanently left a long time ago.

It seems to me, at least this is my sensation when I browse Lemmy and Mastodon, that the Fediverse userbase mostly leans towards either atheism or mainstream beliefs.

Add the inherent discrete nature of occultism and finding Gnostic/Lilithian/Thelemite/Luciferian/Goetian/etc kinship is like trying to find a "Dark Forest" (a nod to the "Dark Forest Hypothesis") within a light-millennia worth of cosmic void, a forest in a planet where the atmosphere may not even allow the kind of spaceship I'm aboard (a Lucifer-centered circle I used to participate, for example, didn't accept my transition to a more syncretic, Lilith-centered belief).

Also add the fact that I do not fully belong to any specific label (notice how I listed several belief systems in my previous paragraph, followed by the "etc"; that's because my belief borrows from each of those systems, plus other belief systems and pantheons I didn't extensively mention, some are said to be "dead religions" and/or "mythologies" nowadays, such as Sumerian where Ereshkigal is described), that I don't fully take an entire "worldview pack", instead borrowing from several "worldview packs" to build my own idiosyncratic worldview, and I'm kind of fated to belong nowhere at all.

Sometimes I become too frustrated with how my content in the Fediverse is mostly met with silence or hollow/numeric reactions, but then I remember it's not exactly the Fediverse to blame, it's simply because I've been in the wrong places. But then the "correct places" don't even seem to exist, at least when it comes to the entirety of my worldviews in all of their depth and breadth.

I mean, I know a few Sumerian cuneiforms and words (from dingir/digir "a divine name" to uš "death" and mušen "bird"), it doesn't mean I'd be able to fully live in Akkadia if the city still existed today. Similarly, I've been studying owl-centered ornithology a lot lately, it doesn't mean I fit Lemmy's superbowl community whose focus is mainly scientific (while mine is esoteric, with
strigiformes, as I believe, being one of the zoomorphic manifestations from Stolas (a teacherly prince, knOWLedgeable of astronomy) and, most importantly, Mother Queen Lilith).

So, I'd say people finding their communities is not a certain aspect of the Fediverse, even the current Web as a whole, a digital mirror of a world where things have been so polarized...

@blogdiva I'm here for bird photos, Linux, and people who know what "ttrpg" means.

Arise, ye nerds!

And I am over 65.

@c_merriweather @blogdiva it sounds like you are in the right place
@blogdiva
I'm old enough to know better
@blogdiva I'm 39 and trying not to have an emotional breakdown about the idea of hitting 40 in less than a year
@zkat @blogdiva Turned 40 last year, haven't stopped breaking down. Can confirm.
@xgranade @zkat @blogdiva I was having a bit of a time realizing that 41 is rapidly approaching. We just had a birthday!
@xgranade
There is science behind a number of body changes around 40, definitely happened to me as well.
@zkat @blogdiva

@zkat @blogdiva Somewhere btw 40 and 50 is when most people start freaking out because kids are graduating high school, starting college, and OMG, maybe the first grandchild? If you've remained childless, then 60 is the hard number, because that's when your body starts breaking down.

P.S. I was probably breaking down before 60 but I spent my 60th birthday in the emergency room with something minor I'd never experienced before. Sigh.

That said, I'm inline skating 1000s of miles per year at 60+.

@zkat @blogdiva The best part of hitting 40 was noticing that it didn't actually change anything other than the box i have to check in forms.
10 years later and the situation is still the same.

The only stressor is every time something starts aching in my body I go "is this it? Is this the Old Age?" but it generally it's just eating too spicy. or too much fiber.

@blogdiva Not sure about #Luddites as a huge percentage of my circle are deep into tech. Amazing community here.
@Alison Luddites were fighting for labor rights and the redistribution of wealth thru social services for those who didn't have jobs because of the machines, and as higher wages and business ownership for those who were left to work with the machines. they smashed the machines not because they were bad but because capitalists were using them to harm people FOR PROFIT.
@blogdiva @Alison i want this knowledge to be a 7th grade humanities unit.
@h2onolan @Alison it was a unit in 9th grade history when i taught it many moons ago here in nyc