Nothing about what we are seeing from this administration is mainline Christian. That’s why they don’t care what the Pope says. They don’t think the Pope is a real Christian.
All of this comes from an apocalyptic end times sect / cult of Christianity centered on ‘dominionism’.
I grew up in this cult and I can trace a straight line from it to all the worst things about our world today, not just in America (they’re also huge in East and SE Asia, Brazil, Australia..)
If you’ve ever seen an athlete or pop star or actor profess their faith and homophobic beliefs publicly and repeatedly it’s likely part of this:
It’s also tied inextricably to America in the way that Mormonism is (on different aspects): while the leaders are American, indisputably, there are a ton of global faith leaders in the same mold
Well, Petey’s pastor has a whole thing about what he believes about the end times
Compare that to this chart of different beliefs on the end times (eschatology)
https://www.desiringgod.org/interviews/an-evening-of-eschatology
I guessed, without even looking too deeply, that Petey’s pastor was a postmillenialist and I am correct. I can see it all of the statements even third hand
This link compares different positions and even thinks the postmillenialists are NOT fervent enough.. (but useful chart on key positions of theology)
@skinnylatte Thanks for sharing your perspective. The reason I cancelled my Washington Post subscription was that they got scooped on the story of Supreme Court justice Samuel Alito flying the Appeal to Heaven flag at his vacation home despite having a *multi-year lead* over other publications on this information.
Catholic justices on SCOTUS have aided and abetted the trend of a “Christian exception” over the course of numerous rulings to not only free Christians from compliance with laws the apply to everyone else, but enable Christians to impose their beliefs on those who don’t share them.
Which is remarkable given that anyone who actually reads and listens to Jesus’ words ought to come away with a huge dose of humility and empathy rather than this kind of overweening arrogance. 😞
@skinnylatte reminds me of the old consolidated track Dominion (mostly a cut of an in person conversation with the band and audience members)
@skinnylatte also apologies for the off topic.
This sounds like a wild way to grow up. Understanding the thoughts here behind the people is instructive
Yep, I grew up around these people, adjacent to, but thankfully not in their cult. Didn't know about the international reach, though.
Christians like Trump have been the default version of Christianity during my lifetime.
I went to Episcopalian school and that denomination seems like nothing at much as straining to try to remain sane in the face of the Bible.
I hear people refer to Episcopalians as mainstream Christianity, but it's dying
@skinnylatte The real weird ones are the Catholics who think the Pope is not a real Christian and have split off into their own little thing, like CORAC.
My uncle is in their little weird cult, apparently got him kicked out of Opus Dei which is a great indicator, when even the dudes wearing cilices think the CORAC guys are fucking weird.
@skinnylatte A deep dive...this series was behind a paywall last I knew, but I just accessed it without my subscription to post the link.
https://www.axismundi.us/podcasts/charismatic-revival-fury/episode-3-part-1
@skinnylatte Blimey, so they just zeroed in on this 'reference to the King James Bible's rendering of Genesis 1:28 in which God grants humanity "dominion" over the Earth.'?...
'And God blessed them, and God said unto them, "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."'
And a couple of mad passages from the likes of Revelations? All to pursue a political national christianism that is the antithesis of what Jesus actually taught? This is scarily stupid, but no doubt effective.
@skinnylatte Christianity started as an apocalyptic cult that has now lingered too long without its apocalypse.
(Comment for the thread audience, not trying to teach you something you already know)
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So do Rep Mike Johnson (at his office) and the Samuel Alito family (at their beach house). They’re not even pretending any longer.
https://newrepublic.com/post/176861/mike-johnson-flying-christian-nationalist-flag-outside-office
Oooh, I learnt a new term. I was brought up in the Kingdom Now strain of this ridiculousness, but in the UK.
It is all very, very insidious, stupid and awful. I am so glad I got out
@skinnylatte thank you for educating people about this. It's vitally important to understanding where we are, and how we got here.
I spent a brief stint in some pseudo-Christian circles and then had to untether myself, so I could heal. I think, subconsciously, I might have been trying not to be gay, by being as religious as possible. I discovered firsthand how toxic that evangelical culture could be, and finally embraced my whole self. Didn't set foot in a church for 12 years, until some gay and trans people invited me to check out their faith community, where literally everyone was respected and welcomed.
Sorry, that was a lot about me. I think it is perhaps a story familiar to you. I see you. I hear you. And I understand your warning.
@skinnylatte
Sara Diamond wrote several books on this movement and others like it
@skinnylatte Still, the utter rejection of biblical teachings by so-called "Christians" is still a bit shocking to behold. 🤷♂️
And their support for a literal anti-Christ figure in the name of (checks notes) Christianity is just insane. 🤦♂️
I realized it was a cult 60 years ago. Yes, I am old.
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