Michael
Third spruce tree on the left"An ad blocker is preventing this page from loading."
No, my #adblocker is preventing your #ADs from loading. The fact that the REST of your page refuses to load if the ads dont load, well that sounds like a YOU problem.
Do any of these CMS and online-ad platform/network #productmanagers realize that if they were to just go back to unobtrusive only-static-image ads embedded in the html of the page itself I would fucking put eyeballs on those? But noooo, we gotta have modal popups and pay-gates and minimize-in-the-corner auto-play videos.
This worked just fine until 2010 then ya went and ballzed it up.
Ambient Sponge@tezoatlipoca At this point I have so much ill will towards the advertising industry that even if they went back to those I would still block the shit out of every single one.
The only reason I'm not setting fire to all advertising I see in the real world is because I'd get arrested.
Andrew Zonenberg@retrosponge @tezoatlipoca Zero tolerance is the only defensible advertising policy.
kit@retrosponge
I don't know much about Bill Hicks, but many years ago a friend introduced me to his idea on advertisers and marketeers, and I couldn't agree more
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I don't know much about Bill Hicks, but many years ago a friend introduced me to his idea on advertisers and marketeers, and I couldn't agree more
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Tony Petrangelo@hypostase @retrosponge @tezoatlipoca Bill’s rants about the ad industry are epic https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9h9wStdPkQY
Bill Hicks on "Marketing" (Explicit Language)
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
LevkaOnly if you get caught.
@LevZadov @tezoatlipoca Knowing me I'd get caught.😂
All crimes, both great and small, follow the same rules.
(1.) Have no witnesses.
(2.) Leave no evidence.
(3.) STFU about it, even to the people you think won’t rat you out when the cops squeeze them. This is the hardest part. We all like to brag. At least wait till the statute of limitations runs out.
Just saying.
Never do anything illegal. You might get in trouble, especially if you're stupid enough to do it in front of a camera.
Tijgertje1987@tezoatlipoca
Agreed, I started blocking when they were still flash ads with no frame limit. Which made my Linux pc want to take off.
Technically I’m not running an add blocker.
I block third party JavaScript, that it also blocks 99,99% of all ads, that is not my problem
Mans R@tezoatlipoca Unobtrusive being the key word.
StarkRG@tezoatlipoca Text ads were better. Marketers inevitably start using bright, clashing colours if they're not allowed to just straight up flash bright lights directly onto your cornea to get your attention.
Marketing is sensory warfare. Ad and tracker blockers are armour and PPE. Asking me to take off my armour so you can shoot me before I'm allowed in isn't going to make me particularly receptive.
Jerome@tezoatlipoca You are right about 2010. Google bought doubleclick in 2007 and launch Android in 2008. That led them to go deeper into advertising on web pages compared to advertising in search. They announced that change in 2009.
Today's internet advertisement is about "pay per click". That requires spying on the users, or one would not know when the ad is clicked. I don't think there is even a possibility to be paid for static ads. 1/2
Today's internet advertisement is about "pay per click". That requires spying on the users, or one would not know when the ad is clicked. I don't think there is even a possibility to be paid for static ads. 1/2
@tezoatlipoca Moreover the majority of Internet traffic happens on smartphones, not computers. A sizable proportion of the users don't know how to block ads on a smartphone and mostly use apps (where ads cannot be blocked) instead of the browser. And that is where the money is.
Basically, what you want is gone. 2010 is not coming back. Your only option is not to browse these sites (that is what I do). And this is what they want because you cost them ressources and don't bring money. 2/2
Erwin Rossen 🔸@dl2jml @tezoatlipoca Do you know a good way to block ads on your mobile? I'm using DuckDuckGo browser, but haven't found a decent ad blocker plugin yet, like I have for Firefox on my MacBook.
ysb33r@tezoatlipoca I'm been around long enough to remember the banner ads of the 90s. Built some of them myself too.
@tezoatlipoca If you look at google how advertisement is paid, you will understand that these sites are essentially only paid when you click. In some cases, only paid when you click and actually buy something, as a percentage of the transaction.
Therefore: the sites must follow you with an identifier, or they will not get the kickback. And they need the advertisement to be in your way, or you will not click and they will not get the kickback either.
Therefore: the sites must follow you with an identifier, or they will not get the kickback. And they need the advertisement to be in your way, or you will not click and they will not get the kickback either.
But noone minded ads when they were passive. Hell, newspaper pages (beyond page 1) were sometimes 60+% ads; noone objected to this.
Newspapers, radio and TV charged adverstisers based on how many eyeballs/earballs they knew their circulation reached. We need to go back to that model.
I get that this doesn't allow targeted advertisement on a per viewer basis, but now the ads/paywalls are so aggressively intrusive, eyeballs bail entirely. I fail to see how the old way is worse.
@tezoatlipoca I am not saying that the old way was worse, quite on the contrary.
I am saying that the old way is gone.
jasonkarns@tezoatlipoca or they said the correct thing and they don’t consider their content indistinguishable from ads.
When someone shows you who they are, believe them!
Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK@jasonkarns @tezoatlipoca I like to read stuff in other languages, one dead giveaway I've seen is for instance looking at a site in German and even with adblockers running some articles randomly appear in English (as they have been inserted by adtech companies, which assume that as my IP is geolocated to UK I am there)
Ned Yeung 🍉The ads prevent everything from loading for me.
Alex, the Hearth Fire@tezoatlipoca "an adblocker is preventing this page from loading."
Oh, it sounds like the page is all ads then. Cool, enjoy that, I'm off to do something else.
The Great Llama 
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My favorite version of this is, "We care about your experience."
What, are you afraid it might be too good?
We don't need AI. AI needs us.@TheGreatLlama @tezoatlipoca
Like when they wrote "we care about your privacy". Then why the hell do you put all that trackers on the webpage?
I just use Noscript extension on FF to block JavaScript.
Like when they wrote "we care about your privacy". Then why the hell do you put all that trackers on the webpage?
I just use Noscript extension on FF to block JavaScript.
Ultra Verified 🇺🇦 🇬🇱Easy solution - block the entire webpage.
Mr Bob@tezoatlipoca youtube's whack a mole with ad-blockers are equally annoying, I use Ublock origin on both Firefox and Chrome and they sometimes videos take a long time to load, keeps on buffering due to enabling ad blockers.
Shards System@tezoatlipoca @AdmiralMemo 👻
“Please consider turning off your adblocker to view this page.”
“Okay!”
“…It’s still on.”
“Correct! 😃”
“…But we asked…”
“You sure did! So I considered it, and decided I wouldn’t. But thanks for looking out for my security sense though! 😉”
“Please consider turning off your adblocker to view this page.”
“Okay!”
“…It’s still on.”
“Correct! 😃”
“…But we asked…”
“You sure did! So I considered it, and decided I wouldn’t. But thanks for looking out for my security sense though! 😉”
dark_stang@tezoatlipoca every site I've seen this on so far ended up having garbage generated content anyway
Paco Hope@tezoatlipoca When a website says “we need to talk about your ad blocker,” I think “No. No we don’t.”
Corb_The_Lesser@tezoatlipoca It's the people behind that site lying. They've paid to have their site display that lying message when an ad browser is detected.
Once they've identified themselves as liars, why would they expect to be believed by anyone who disabled their adblocker?
gsec@tezoatlipoca Vanadium Browser -> settings -> site settings -> java script blocked by default (can be enabled individually)
Those simple steps invert the whole content-slop-relationship and you decide deliberately which websites can start to do their tricks on you. The effect is amazing.
Ben M0SWV 🏳️🌈 🇪🇺 🇮🇪 🇵🇸
Rob@tezoatlipoca similar to 'your privacy matters to us' so please make 45 clicks to turn off our tracking cookies because we refuse to provide a reject all button.
Reads to me like, we don't want people visiting our site
Soozcat@Eurospoofer @tezoatlipoca I mean, that's how I read it. If your site won't function without being able to serve up 90 bazillion ads, I'll go elsewhere and your site will serve up 0 ads.
Taffer 🇨🇦
@tezoatlipoca @alice I can’t get UPS.com to load even if I disable the ad blockers 🤷
Sym (public node) 
@tezoatlipoca The ad blocker prevents ads from loading. The rest of the page is just them throwing a fit like a toddler.
Jigme Datse@tezoatlipoca "Fine thanks, I didn't really need it anyway..." Usually a fair response in my opinion. I have to disable "No Script" or some such occasionally on my "click link and open things up" browser. Meaning I need to enable the running of scripts for that site. That seems fair. If I "must see ads" I don't need to see the content you are blocking me from seeing.
Laurent Cimon@tezoatlipoca nothing turns me away from a website faster than this, with "become a member to continue reading" as a close second
T3rc@tezoatlipoca My ad blocker is never turned off.
Sometimes I might allow JS to run. Only sometimes.
If I can’t read a page under these conditions, then I don’t read the page. The information I was seeking is most likely available elsewhere.
Don’t get me wrong. I subscribe and pay for some sites; it’s only right to support sites you value.
But ads? Never.
Simple as that.
Elizabeth Sudduth@tezoatlipoca Many of these are still readable in Reader mode in the browser. The New York Times and Washington Post are two of the only sites that have actually successfully blocked Reader mode. Most of the rest of the internet is still blissfully readable as text like it's 1999.
Lstn2urmama4@tezoatlipoca my blocker has good days and bad ones some days I would like to slap it for not doing the job ..
Fardels BearI'm a fundamentalist about ads on the internet: they're evil and I don't want any of them polluting my screen. I can remember a time when there weren't any. That makes a huge difference in the way I think about them.
Tobias Hellgren@tezoatlipoca I don't even have an ad blocker turned on, but still not being served because I don't allow ads to track me. I don't mind unintrusive ads, especially if I'm not paying for the service.
Mx. Alba 
@tezoatlipoca
When I'm at home I use the Triple Whammy:
1) Pihole DNS filter that uses...
2) Quad9 as its backend DNS service, and...
3) uBlock Origin in my browser
I kinda respect ads that manage to still get through. 
When I'm at home I use the Triple Whammy:
1) Pihole DNS filter that uses...
2) Quad9 as its backend DNS service, and...
3) uBlock Origin in my browser
I kinda respect ads that manage to still get through.