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Khleedril 3d ago

@NickEast_IndieWriter @bookstodon @books @worldbuilding @humor @[email protected] @aiop At least he's not trying to fool anybody with his hair.

lemonhead2 3d ago

in dune all space travel relies on spice which is only found on a desert planet inhabited by fremen who start a holy war.

how far away from that are we?

@lemonhead2 @NickEast_IndieWriter
That was deliberately based on Arabs and oil.

@raymaccarthy I'm still waiting for the Butlerian Jihad part where we rise up and destroy the thinking machines 😁

@NickEast_IndieWriter
There are no thinking machines yet. Just marketing hype.
Some major players in tech would do well to consider the French Revolution.
Even the Luddites only attacked machines to indirectly attack greedy Capitalists making x100 profit and paying less, yet offering poor conditions. See also McD servers, Amazon warehouse workers etc.

@raymaccarthy Okay, but can't we just call them thinking machines and start the Butlerian Jihad now? 😜

hayvan 3d ago

And the underdog gains the upper hand by threatening to cut off the space oil supply.

SeductiveTortoise 3d ago

I can see they are in desperate need of freedom.

@NickEast_IndieWriter @bookstodon @books @worldbuilding @humor @[email protected] @aiop
Actually most popular fiction isn't very realistic:
Romance
Detective / Mystery
Spy
Thrillers / Adventure
Westerns (not popular now).
Non SF & F horror.
Robinsonades

A novel need not be one genre, that's a publisher/marketing thing.

There is a spectrum between SF - fantasy - paranormal etc.
Dune and especially the early Pern novels are far more Fantasy than SF.

Even a lot of autobiographies are fiction or fantasy!

@raymaccarthy That is true, but I think a lot of people consider realistic to mean it takes place in "the real world" where things happen that they could imagine happening in "the real world", the fact that it's all imagination doesn't come into consideration 🤔

@NickEast_IndieWriter
Sherlock Holmes isn't set in the real world. He's a fantasy detective.
Swallows and Amazons isn't in the real Lake District.
People that object to SF & F are either having a preconceived idea of it, or basing their idea of it on movies or have read either stuff that doesn't suit or poor stuff.
I read SF & F (but not "horror" sub-genres) and as well as stuff I really love there is stuff I hate.
Same applies to other genres, except I don't like erotic, horror or porn at all.

@raymaccarthy Of course no fictional narrative is "the real world" that's why I put it in "quotes" 😁

Trump & Epstein: Biz partners.3d ago

@NickEast_IndieWriter @bookstodon @books @worldbuilding @humor @[email protected] @aiop

Michael Moore once lamented that he never wanted to do just documentaries.

His only NON-documentary movie was a comedy called "Canadian Bacon" about an unpopular president who starts a war with #Canada.

Poor Mike came very close (so far) from having his only work of fiction becoming yet another documentary. 😐

@MugsysRapSheet Hmm, was it any good? Worth watching? 🤔

Trump & Epstein: Biz partners.3d ago

@NickEast_IndieWriter
Good cast. Terrible writing.

Worth watching just for the novelty value. #CanadianBacon

@worldbuilding @bookstodon @humor @NickEast_IndieWriter @aiop @MugsysRapSheet @[email protected] @books

Franceska Mann 3d ago

I adored Michael Moore. In 2020 he had a podcast and he started saying that the world is overpopulated. He helped some white men put out a documentary and he pushed it hard. He refused to understand that his arguments were eco-fascist. So I gave up on him.

Diplomjodler 3d ago

Frank Herbert totally invented all of this stuff out of thin air and didn’t have any historical precedent to work with at all.

@Diplomjodler3 Just like no writer has ever taken any inspiration from anything that has ever happened 😁

Andrew 3d ago

@Diplomjodler3 @NickEast_IndieWriter not true, the inspiration was clearly rooted in Middle Eastern culture, Islam and for “spice” read oil.

@cranachan Would it help if we added #Sarcasm 😉

Viceversa 3d ago

Whooosh

BremboTheFourth 3d ago

I mean, obviously the holy war and spice was based on the Middle East and oil, but getting “fat orange pedophile god-king” right is a pretty incredible coincidence. And it would be Lynch’s prediction, not Herbert’s

woe2you 3d ago

@NickEast_IndieWriter @bookstodon @books @worldbuilding @humor @[email protected] @aiop You forgot to tag #horseriding #bitcoin and #golf there.

Cellari 3d ago

Wait I just found out that guy is called Baron V. Harkonnen, where the V stands for Vladimir. Borderline prophecy the Dune books if you ask me, and it’s frightening. :D

Grabthar 3d ago

Ah, so the sleeper has awakened!

@Cellari Maybe fiction is the reality and we're just the shadow copies on the walls of the cave? 🤔 😁

Fazal Majid 3d ago

@NickEast_IndieWriter Baron Harkonnen had a plan, at least. And his grandson and great-grandson ended up ruling the galaxy, anyhow.

@fazalmajid Yeah, as they say the diffrence between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense 😁