Ken Dahl
JA WestenbergThe most unhinged thing about modern life is that we've normalised paying $200 a month for the gym and $300 a month for wellness "supplements" but if someone charges $5 for a newsletter they wrote with their actual brain people act like they've been mugged at knifepoint
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Stage name Jay Peach@Daojoan Or $250 for internet/TV/phone…
Supermoosie1)Ride a bicycle to the gym and back a few times a week.
You don't have to pay money or go in. You will be just as fit and take less total time.
2) eat your veggies
Money and time you saved, can be spent on buying and reading the newsletter.
EQ@SuperMoosie @Daojoan Bicycle is a bit one-sided training though. You can spice it up a bit by for example carry the bike up the hills. Now and then turn it upside down and clean the chain with a rag, great for upper arm strength and the fine motorics of your fingers!
If you have proper winters you can always go biking in the snow, that's a real nice workout both for strength and balance. The spin-machines at the gym has nothing compared to this.
And don't forget the stairs!
If you have proper winters you can always go biking in the snow, that's a real nice workout both for strength and balance. The spin-machines at the gym has nothing compared to this.
And don't forget the stairs!
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No but seriously, I meet an older neighbour biking to the gym a couple of times a week. There are actual usages for gyms that the bikes don't help, especially if you are a bit older.
I guess the high price in Sweden is partly because your job gets a tax reduction if they pay for your gym card. This means the gym tries to take the whole max amount the company can spend for that tax deduction. Another opportunity from the capitalist grifters.
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derptron@SuperMoosie @Daojoan You are not going to get the same results doing one exercise all the time that you can if you have all the tools available to accurately target every muscle group.
You can also compress your cardio with HIIT, which is easier to achieve in a controlled environment. You can get the same results as an hour bike ride in 10 minutes or less.
You should at least add some bodyweight routines to your program. Some cheap dumbbells and/or resistance bands.
A) try it
B)gym marketing bullshit for most people.
C) You forget the time wasted driving to the gym and back and waiting for your protein shake, which you will just poo out if eating normally.
BenAvelingI’ve tried gyms and I’ve tried working out at home and gyms>>home workout.
I assume you’re actually speaking from experience, you aren’t just assuming it ought to be the same, and if so that’s great for you, but it’s not true for most people. @SuperMoosie @crazyeddie
I assume you’re actually speaking from experience, you aren’t just assuming it ought to be the same, and if so that’s great for you, but it’s not true for most people. @SuperMoosie @crazyeddie
@SuperMoosie Fiber shake. And that's the point.
Bodhi 心@Daojoan This gets at something that is germinating for me at the moment: I have thought for a long time that the arts/humanities should be 'demarginalised', but lately I've been wondering whether the can or should be ~ perhaps they do their best work in the margins, causing subtle shifts in the subcultural veins. Demarginalising might mean 'commercialising', which generally stinks of taint. This 'argument' doesn't pay the bills though, I get that.
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Peitão Salino@Daojoan this is not a honest comparison.
John K@garrafapeite2l
It's sure good clickbait though. Made me look.
Justin Scholz@Daojoan it‘s your story telling opportunity. This is not a newsletter, this is a mental health supplement and equivalent to doing mental workouts delivered to your inbox!
Nicks World@Daojoan Who's paying $200 a month to go to a gym? That's a ripoff!
mcSlibinas@NicksWorld @Daojoan also those, who pay 200 for gym do not really into reading 👀
@mcSlibinas @Daojoan Even my brother pays only $17 every 2 weeks for the gym, so $34 a month, not $200.
@NicksWorld @Daojoan in New York? Or any other expensive city? Subscription fees may be very different
@mcSlibinas @Daojoan Damn! New York is that expensive? Shit, you gotta be making $1000000 or more to even consider living there it seems.
@NicksWorld @Daojoan i found on internet, so can be lies: https://latestcost.com/average-gym-membership-cost-nyc/
@mcSlibinas @NicksWorld @Daojoan You forgot they spend even more on supplements so they're probably reading a bunch of marketing material on the effectiveness of essential snake oils.
Kees de Kooter 🍉@Daojoan I have worked for million dollar companies that were too cheap to pay for a zoom subscription. Upside was that meetings lasted for max 45 minutes.
David JONES@Daojoan i blame mobile games, where for no particularly good reason the price-point for a game a small team had spent months developing went from $40 to $1.99 to $0.00
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anthropomorphic blast radius@Daojoan $200, pm? 😵💫 My local (fully equipped) sports centre/gym + 100m swimming pool is $45! Which is not the point you were making, of course, but I'm horrified still.
@Daojoan I think there are jobs, talents, here considered "poor man" skills. I sew and rarely do alterations anymore because all people want is cheap labor, in certain areas. A woman may spend $100, $200, $300+ for hair & nails, but balk at the cost to hem her dress 😥
Writing is in the same boat. It's just paper, right? 😭
Sad we pay CEOs and financial analysts million$, but the actual, hands-on workers are still fighting for minimum wages. Yay America! Are we great yet? 🥴
Count Holdem@Daojoan Yes, the math of physics measures the longevity of the human species.
Is every educational system rooted in this primary fact?
Nu Modular@Daojoan is not that simply. Professionals lost respect in my eyes - reuters and other liars. Or wired and other offensive advertisers.
So i do not even thinking about support of any juornalism. Except we have couple local teams who actually do investigate corruption.
So 5€ is the reason i put page in blocklist.
Sure, if i will begin to miss them - can unblock. In theory.
spidercider@Daojoan my gym is like $15 a month idk about you
Magnus Ahltorp@Daojoan I understand this, but it often isn’t $5, it’s $5 and handing over a lot of personal information. Why do they need to know my name and where I live if it isn’t for selling the information?
veroandi_brI wish the newsletters I wanted to subscribe to only cost 5 euros. My fav one costs 99€ 🥲
Cassandrich@Daojoan I mean I don't know who's paying $200/mo for gym but it sounds like a certain class I'm not and don't want to be a part of... We have municipal gyms that are $3/entry, no membership/contract.
@Daojoan Maybe that came across as derailing but I think my point was that normal people can't afford $200/mo on something frivolous, or even more than a few $5/mo subscriptions that add up.
Captain Salem@Daojoan 200$ dollars for a gym, sounds like they should be mugged at knifepoint.
Ray Greenwell@Daojoan because mentally it’s not about the money it’s about being asked to make a decision about money.
Liminal witch 🧙♀️ Sarah@Daojoan how do people have so much disposable income?
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Nomad Skateboarding@Daojoan I think if you can afford a $200 gym membership that is abnormal. But I get the point 🙂
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Sassinake! ᑐ ∪ ∩ ⊂... but biking to work is 'too hard'.
@Daojoan Why would you target people who pay $500 a month on gym and supplement memberships in your marketing campaigns for what I'm assuming you consider a thoughtful newsletter?
Of course you are going to be met with disappointment! You don't have anything they even remotely want! This is very predictable--yes, even the ridiculous, "I'm being mugged," reaction.
I think your market research has led you very astray. Those are not the droids you're looking for.
Pete Prodoehl 🍕@Daojoan $500 for a gym and supplements!? I sort of need that $500 to actually live. That covers our groceries for a month and there’s not another $500 left after that! And “just $5 a month” can add up quickly for a member of the working class.
Miah Johnson@Daojoan Based on the replies, I'm not the only one freaking out about $200/mo gym memberships. I don't miss living in big cities anymore. My small rural town its $30/mo for 24hour access. Leaves me plenty of $ for buying things from small businesses.
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Jim Zhou@Daojoan If I'm shelling out $300 a month it's gonna be some DNM prescription meds or chemicals that at least I know does something, good or bad. Also, much more bang for your buck on those markets since the vendors compete with proven psychoactive products instead of pills that may straight up do nothing across the board.
Scotty Trees@Daojoan $200 gyms? Uhhh PLanet Fitness and Crunch are like 10-20 bucks no commitment, this is such a strange take to make a point.
BenYeah, like I kinda agree and I do pay for a couple premium newsletters, but when I’ve paid for a gym membership it’s been $10/month.
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Maxilo OveritSubscriptions on usurious platforms are bad.
Overpaying for rent, fees and other first world services are 100x worse for sure.
william.maggosbecause those subscriptions are something we should each be paying for 20 of and can't decide, and then end up wanting to consume something else that was recommended to us. And it happens every day. kinda like paying for streaming and finding out all your friends are watching something on the one service you don't pay for.
we have a media payment ecosystem that doesn't track with what comes in via social media.
synlogic4242@Daojoan bingo. eat healthy is easy. and exercise is free 24x7, no gym required.
starfrost@Daojoan who is paying 200 a month for a gym what? is this an american thing? i paid £25 a month for a "premium" gym membership...even expensive middle class dickhead ones were only 60-70...
Scary Austin@starfrost @Daojoan
There are certainly gyms in the US where you pay $25 a month (like Planet Fitness) but there are also $200+ a month chain gyms like Lifetime Fitness. Lifetime does have nice amenities and all kinds of classes, but ye gods is it a meat market. Even leaving aside the price, I like going to Planet Fitness because you can actually do your workout in peace over there. It's very laid back.
There are certainly gyms in the US where you pay $25 a month (like Planet Fitness) but there are also $200+ a month chain gyms like Lifetime Fitness. Lifetime does have nice amenities and all kinds of classes, but ye gods is it a meat market. Even leaving aside the price, I like going to Planet Fitness because you can actually do your workout in peace over there. It's very laid back.