JA WestenbergThe most unhinged thing about modern life is that we've normalised paying $200 a month for the gym and $300 a month for wellness "supplements" but if someone charges $5 for a newsletter they wrote with their actual brain people act like they've been mugged at knifepoint
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Stage name Jay Peach@Daojoan Or $250 for internet/TV/phone…
Supermoosie1)Ride a bicycle to the gym and back a few times a week.
You don't have to pay money or go in. You will be just as fit and take less total time.
2) eat your veggies
Money and time you saved, can be spent on buying and reading the newsletter.
EQ@SuperMoosie @Daojoan Bicycle is a bit one-sided training though. You can spice it up a bit by for example carry the bike up the hills. Now and then turn it upside down and clean the chain with a rag, great for upper arm strength and the fine motorics of your fingers!
If you have proper winters you can always go biking in the snow, that's a real nice workout both for strength and balance. The spin-machines at the gym has nothing compared to this.
And don't forget the stairs!
If you have proper winters you can always go biking in the snow, that's a real nice workout both for strength and balance. The spin-machines at the gym has nothing compared to this.
And don't forget the stairs!
@SuperMoosie
No but seriously, I meet an older neighbour biking to the gym a couple of times a week. There are actual usages for gyms that the bikes don't help, especially if you are a bit older.
I guess the high price in Sweden is partly because your job gets a tax reduction if they pay for your gym card. This means the gym tries to take the whole max amount the company can spend for that tax deduction. Another opportunity from the capitalist grifters.
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derptron@SuperMoosie @Daojoan You are not going to get the same results doing one exercise all the time that you can if you have all the tools available to accurately target every muscle group.
You can also compress your cardio with HIIT, which is easier to achieve in a controlled environment. You can get the same results as an hour bike ride in 10 minutes or less.
You should at least add some bodyweight routines to your program. Some cheap dumbbells and/or resistance bands.
A) try it
B)gym marketing bullshit for most people.
C) You forget the time wasted driving to the gym and back and waiting for your protein shake, which you will just poo out if eating normally.
BenAvelingI’ve tried gyms and I’ve tried working out at home and gyms>>home workout.
I assume you’re actually speaking from experience, you aren’t just assuming it ought to be the same, and if so that’s great for you, but it’s not true for most people. @SuperMoosie @crazyeddie
I assume you’re actually speaking from experience, you aren’t just assuming it ought to be the same, and if so that’s great for you, but it’s not true for most people. @SuperMoosie @crazyeddie
@SuperMoosie Fiber shake. And that's the point.
Bodhi 心@Daojoan This gets at something that is germinating for me at the moment: I have thought for a long time that the arts/humanities should be 'demarginalised', but lately I've been wondering whether the can or should be ~ perhaps they do their best work in the margins, causing subtle shifts in the subcultural veins. Demarginalising might mean 'commercialising', which generally stinks of taint. This 'argument' doesn't pay the bills though, I get that.
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Peitão Salino@Daojoan this is not a honest comparison.
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It's sure good clickbait though. Made me look.
Justin Scholz@Daojoan it‘s your story telling opportunity. This is not a newsletter, this is a mental health supplement and equivalent to doing mental workouts delivered to your inbox!
Nicks World@Daojoan Who's paying $200 a month to go to a gym? That's a ripoff!
mcSlibinas@NicksWorld @Daojoan also those, who pay 200 for gym do not really into reading 👀
@mcSlibinas @Daojoan Even my brother pays only $17 every 2 weeks for the gym, so $34 a month, not $200.
@NicksWorld @Daojoan in New York? Or any other expensive city? Subscription fees may be very different
@mcSlibinas @Daojoan Damn! New York is that expensive? Shit, you gotta be making $1000000 or more to even consider living there it seems.
@NicksWorld @Daojoan i found on internet, so can be lies: https://latestcost.com/average-gym-membership-cost-nyc/
@mcSlibinas @NicksWorld @Daojoan You forgot they spend even more on supplements so they're probably reading a bunch of marketing material on the effectiveness of essential snake oils.
Kees de Kooter 🍉@Daojoan I have worked for million dollar companies that were too cheap to pay for a zoom subscription. Upside was that meetings lasted for max 45 minutes.
David JONES@Daojoan i blame mobile games, where for no particularly good reason the price-point for a game a small team had spent months developing went from $40 to $1.99 to $0.00
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anthropomorphic blast radius@Daojoan $200, pm? 😵💫 My local (fully equipped) sports centre/gym + 100m swimming pool is $45! Which is not the point you were making, of course, but I'm horrified still.
@Daojoan I think there are jobs, talents, here considered "poor man" skills. I sew and rarely do alterations anymore because all people want is cheap labor, in certain areas. A woman may spend $100, $200, $300+ for hair & nails, but balk at the cost to hem her dress 😥
Writing is in the same boat. It's just paper, right? 😭
Sad we pay CEOs and financial analysts million$, but the actual, hands-on workers are still fighting for minimum wages. Yay America! Are we great yet? 🥴
Count Holdem@Daojoan Yes, the math of physics measures the longevity of the human species.
Is every educational system rooted in this primary fact?
Nu Modular@Daojoan is not that simply. Professionals lost respect in my eyes - reuters and other liars. Or wired and other offensive advertisers.
So i do not even thinking about support of any juornalism. Except we have couple local teams who actually do investigate corruption.
So 5€ is the reason i put page in blocklist.
Sure, if i will begin to miss them - can unblock. In theory.
spidercider@Daojoan my gym is like $15 a month idk about you
Magnus Ahltorp@Daojoan I understand this, but it often isn’t $5, it’s $5 and handing over a lot of personal information. Why do they need to know my name and where I live if it isn’t for selling the information?
veroandi_brI wish the newsletters I wanted to subscribe to only cost 5 euros. My fav one costs 99€ 🥲
Cassandrich@Daojoan I mean I don't know who's paying $200/mo for gym but it sounds like a certain class I'm not and don't want to be a part of... We have municipal gyms that are $3/entry, no membership/contract.
@Daojoan Maybe that came across as derailing but I think my point was that normal people can't afford $200/mo on something frivolous, or even more than a few $5/mo subscriptions that add up.
Jess👾@JessTheUnstill @Daojoan Maybe so. Thanks for making me aware.
Captain Salem@Daojoan 200$ dollars for a gym, sounds like they should be mugged at knifepoint.
Ray Greenwell@Daojoan because mentally it’s not about the money it’s about being asked to make a decision about money.
Liminal witch 🧙♀️ Sarah@Daojoan how do people have so much disposable income?
Ethan Nawlins@Daojoan if I do not physically own the article I am not paying anything, I will even keep my adblockers on-
As a future journalist who intends on utilizing their platform for change and not profit.. What the fuck 
Also 200$ for a gym membership?? 
ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESdo you have a problem with asking for donations?
i'm just feeling out your position
because it might not be you, but there *are* online voices who whine about even just asking for donations
it's all very entitled, frankly
not everyone is a trust fund kid who doesn't have to worry about supporting themselves. people need to eat
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Nomad Skateboarding@Daojoan I think if you can afford a $200 gym membership that is abnormal. But I get the point 🙂
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Sassinake!... but biking to work is 'too hard'.
@Daojoan Why would you target people who pay $500 a month on gym and supplement memberships in your marketing campaigns for what I'm assuming you consider a thoughtful newsletter?
Of course you are going to be met with disappointment! You don't have anything they even remotely want! This is very predictable--yes, even the ridiculous, "I'm being mugged," reaction.
I think your market research has led you very astray. Those are not the droids you're looking for.
Pete Prodoehl 🍕@Daojoan $500 for a gym and supplements!? I sort of need that $500 to actually live. That covers our groceries for a month and there’s not another $500 left after that! And “just $5 a month” can add up quickly for a member of the working class.
Miah Johnson@Daojoan Based on the replies, I'm not the only one freaking out about $200/mo gym memberships. I don't miss living in big cities anymore. My small rural town its $30/mo for 24hour access. Leaves me plenty of $ for buying things from small businesses.
Mariya Delano@Daojoan yes! Very unpopular opinion but I think most forms of media and entertainment products can be more expensive. (Magazines, newspapers, newsletters, books, video games, music, newsletters, podcasts, etc.).
Higher margins would mean less dependence on advertising (or ability to remove it altogether) and sufficient finances to cover the actual cost of intellectual and creative labor.
I feel like entertainment and media have been in a race to the bottom and their pricing is a key component.
(This doesn’t mean I don’t want there to be free options - I think we need institutions like libraries for this exact reason. Pay for creative and intellectual work fairly and still allow access to the larger population who can’t afford to pay full price)
Desert Square Gardener@Daojoan maybe they don't like what's being written.
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