If you have #ADHD, you are probably bitterly familiar with the Wall of Awful — the feeling when you *want* to do a thing, but you just *cannot* get yourself to actually *do* it. The thing you want is behind a wall of negative emotions, and anytime you even get close to it you get overwhelmed or panic.

My interest in electronics has been behind my Wall of Awful for years now. I've been staring at these damn things for weeks and struggling to get myself to do *absolutely anything* with them.

Also, do you have #ADHD and feel bad about having a bunch of unfinished projects, abandoned hobbies, unread books, etc.?

Yeah, you should stop that.

You have a neurological bias toward novelty and poor executive function. You're probably using up all your self-control to do the things you need to get done like work, chores, and errands.

As long as you aren't digging yourself into a financial hole, cut yourself some slack with the stuff you do for fun. It's gonna be messy, and that's okay.

@malcircuit Yes! I spent years berating myself (and still sometimes do), but I've found ways to mitigate my disaster to some extent and forgive myself.

I gave a 5-minute talk a couple of years ago that some fellow #ADHD folks said was helpful. Sharing it in hopes someone else finds it beneficial. YMMV.

If you have any techniques that have helped you with these challenges, I'd love to hear them.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0lcjpfUx1_o&t=1809

Lightning Talks Day Two with Kojo Idrissa

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@jack Great talk!

And OMG I loooooove huskies 

@malcircuit We meant to get a small, short-haired dog 😂

But a friend of ours had accidental pups, so we went to "just see the puppies" ...

... and came home with #LadyDuchess 😁

Maybe the best spur-of-the-moment decision of my life.

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Here are some of my favorite puppy pics. How could we not fall in love? 😍

@malcircuit

I feel like I have been put on blast and now visible from space...

@malcircuit Thank you for the useful term #WallOfAwful I was not aware of. I know the feeling but I don't think I have #ADHD.

I just searched the web for this term and read that it affects people on the autistic spectrum, too.

How does it relate to #procrastination, something most creative people, students and white-collar workers seem to grapple with? Is it basically the same but worse?

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@[email protected] the closest analogy I've heard is: put your hand on the hot stove burner. Just do it. You're physically capable of doing that, right? So just do it. Your brain won't "let you"? Hmmm, sounds fake, stop procrastinating. Except, random tasks become hot burners, like responding to that email or doing the laundry. Pushing to try to do a hot burner task feels similar to trying to convince my brain to move my hand to a hot stove.

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@chpietsch @malcircuit struggling with task initiation (or completion) can translate as procrastination - may be largely a semantic difference with one pointing to a physical limitation and the other implying a level of choice.

@chpietsch @malcircuit thank you for pointing this out. Both of you. I'm in that picture.
Neither ADHD nor Autism officially diagnosed but Therapists have pointed towards autism in the past and I guess I can say I'm not bad at masking.

Need to read up on this, as I'm still trying to figure out how to fix a lot of things and "The Wall of Awful" perfectly describes A LOT of the things I've researched a lot about but never made the step to actually DO that or invest more then a halfway focused night into, incl. A lot of things that would make my job A LOT better.

@fellmoon @chpietsch

This is where I first learned about the Wall of Awful

https://youtu.be/Uo08uS904Rg

Why Is It So Hard to Do Something That Should Be Easy? (Wall of Awful pt. 1)

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@chpietsch @malcircuit I've heard it put that procrastination is when you choose to defer doing something you don't want to do, but that WallOfAwful thing is when you can't do something you really want to do. They may look the same from the outside, but inside they are totally different.

@joshsusser @chpietsch

Yeah, the Wall of Awful is like procrastination on steroids. Having a Wall of Awful means there are enough negative emotions associated with Doing The Thing that it triggers your fight/flight/freeze response.

In my experience of procrastination, I can usually use logic/self-talk or a simple trick (treats, etc.) to get myself to do the thing. Dealing with a Wall of Awful takes emotional work.

@malcircuit @joshsusser I find your explanations very helpful. Many thanks to both of you!

@malcircuit It wasn't until I was probably 40 that I realized it isn't just "OK". It's a *huge advantage* to be continually starting new things. Every one of those projects adds some points to entries on your LIfetime Skill Tree.

The N+1th project you start is that much easier than the Nth. You get farther. Also, Project N will come up again in 6 months to 5 years and you'll make more progress again.

Think about how much better you are at electronics than you were 10 years ago. Or when you were 12.

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It is such a relief to know I am not the only one, and it isn't just a character flaw!

I still remember and cherish the memory of how I felt years after spending big-for-me money on yarn and knitting patterns that sat in a bag, for years, when I finally picked up one of the projects, worked on it, and finished it. Then completed the second one! It felt amazing, and wonderful!

I still have so many unstarted as well as unfinished projects. Just ideas in head, materials saved, found, scrounged, thrifted or purchased, waiting for magic wave of umph to start or continue.

Those 2 finished projects feed the hope that some day I will pick up the unfinished, unstarted, and complete them too.

@BrambleBearWhuffling @malcircuit
One of the things that I’ve learned about myself over the years is that I will work like a beaver on my projects when there are other folks around me. I’ve also primarily focussed on #sewing my own clothing for a half dozen years now and amazingly, I now wear an almost entirely #MeMade wardrobe. A lot of that is thanks to sewing classes, sew days, and online maker times. #BodyDouble magic!
#ADHD

@EllenInEdmonton @malcircuit

Huh, that is interesting. I am the opposite. I don't focus well when other people are around, at least other people I know. I need to be alone to get stuff done.

@BrambleBearWhuffling @malcircuit
Yeah, we’re all unique. The trick is to figure out how.

@EllenInEdmonton @malcircuit

Part of me wishes I had known this decades ago. Better late than never, though, I guess.

@BrambleBearWhuffling @malcircuit
I’ve needed to be alone in a quiet place to do work-work for a very long time. Working in a massive open workspace was a hideous experience for the 3 years I did it. As a part-timer, I had the option of WFH which I used.
But, for creative work, I need the energy of other people in my vicinity. That’s also been true for a very long time.
@malcircuit some of them could help me dig OUT of the hole, but I'm too busy digging somewhere else :'(
@malcircuit (also traditional shoutout to hal)
@malcircuit but what if I don't have ADHD? 😬

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Thank you. This was actually very helpful.

@malcircuit worse yet, i'm not doing anything at all and i STILL can't pay attention to whatever.
@malcircuit Hellllll yeah!! I'm #AuDHD with a brain injury! I'm the one who's like, "You guys can function?!" 
@malcircuit I have a huge number of projects that are about 80-90% done, but I can't get myself to do the last bits, especially since they work somehow in an awkward manner.
@malcircuit totally relatable. when i first read your thing, i read "stop that" like stop with the unfinished projects. i was like yeah ​:sob:​ then second time through i realised you meant stop feeling bad. i think? unfortunately i got autism too which tells me no matter how crazy i think something is, theres someone out there that assumes its totally normal. so really one can never assume haha
@malcircuit no, I don’t feel bad right now, because I’m busy prepping a future unfinished project, and projects always feel good before you loose interest and leave them unfinished! XD
@malcircuit I understand and appreciate your advice, but also I want finished stuff.