Ryan Mullins
Per ThorsheimUS gov asks european suppliers to guarantee they don't do DEI.
Next: we ask US to guarantee they do fair pay, 5 weeks paid annual vacation and 1 year paid maternity leave.
Hilde Austlid@thorsheim Seriously, we should set some minimum requirements of decent working conditions for all imports, no matter where they're from.
Andreas K@hildeaustlid @thorsheim Actually the EU wanted to, but our industry lobby managed to stop the supply chain law I think.
And the national level ones, e.g. in Germany, got watered down.
It's ridiculous hard to make a profit when the end of the supply chain is responsible for ensuring European work standards are applied from the start for your ultra-cheap fast fashion.
Natanox 🇺🇦🇵🇸@yacc143 @hildeaustlid @thorsheim And since we measure success by growth of GDP instead of any quality of life markers letting anything bigger fail (like fast fashion industry) is never an option…
Saupreiss #Präparat500 🗽I have been told that at present it’s close to impossible to guarantee even minimal Standards for quality wear even if the industry wanted to and I tend to believe that.
It would improve when they’re forced to, because it creates a market, while disrupting another one.
Filip@yacc143
The European law has been passed recently (although watered down from what we had hoped but it's way better than nothing!) It's called the Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence Directive (CSDDD): https://commission.europa.eu/business-economy-euro/doing-business-eu/sustainability-due-diligence-responsible-business/corporate-sustainability-due-diligence_en As a directive, it still needs to be implemented by member states in order to have an effect. And it's already under massive political attack
@hildeaustlid @thorsheim
The European law has been passed recently (although watered down from what we had hoped but it's way better than nothing!) It's called the Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence Directive (CSDDD): https://commission.europa.eu/business-economy-euro/doing-business-eu/sustainability-due-diligence-responsible-business/corporate-sustainability-due-diligence_en As a directive, it still needs to be implemented by member states in order to have an effect. And it's already under massive political attack
@hildeaustlid @thorsheim
@yacc143
The German law (Lieferkettensorgfaltspflichtengesetz, LkSG) which predates the CSDDD is weaker in some important respects, e.g. it doesn't have liability so people in the supply chain can't directly sue companies based on this law, but stronger in others. It's also threatened politically so we must fight for both this year
@hildeaustlid @thorsheim
The German law (Lieferkettensorgfaltspflichtengesetz, LkSG) which predates the CSDDD is weaker in some important respects, e.g. it doesn't have liability so people in the supply chain can't directly sue companies based on this law, but stronger in others. It's also threatened politically so we must fight for both this year
@hildeaustlid @thorsheim
Kevin Karhan 
@hildeaustlid @thorsheim #FunFact: There were some #SourcingRequirement regulations on the table at @EUCommission demanding #HumanRights, #WorkersRights and #EnvoirmentalStandards as well as #HealthcareStandards / #WorkplaceSafetyStandards to make it legal to even import products.
- #Lobbyists canceled that!
Suran
aprilfollies@thorsheim This USian: Please, please, please!
Rachel_CxY@thorsheim This is not true right? They cannot ask to actually be racist sexist transphobic homophobic whatever as a prerequisite for doing business?
@RachelC_Y @thorsheim just demanding that would likely be a triple felony in #Germany:
I just hope @Bundesregierung , @AuswaertigesAmt and @antidiskriminierung remind the #US #Ambassador they are mere #Guests and that #Diplomats are expected to comply with local laws and customs or they get expelled!
Kevin Karhan :verified: (@[email protected])
@[email protected] the sheer insultingness to demand illegal acts is beyond belief and if it was my decision, I'd tell the U.S. ambassador to either get the POTUS to apologize or they can fuck off and the embassy will be closed until they revert course and pay all the dues + interest accumulated in the meantime! #GlovesOff #Diplomacy
Gurre Vildskägg@RachelC_Y @thorsheim well no, but they did demand everyone doing business with the US federal government stop any and all efforts to not be bigotted, racist, misogynistic, homophobic, transphobic, ableist, etc.
@Gurre @thorsheim Well that's bad enough 😭
@RachelC_Y First part is true. Companies in Norway, as in France and others, have received letters from American embassies about this.
The second part is wishful thinking / suggestion from me.
@thorsheim Oh for the second part, it was pretty obvious. But thanks for clarifying just in case.
Irina@RachelC_Y @thorsheim Apparently, they can. Because they do.
Woozle HypertwinThey can ask....
Hopefully the suppliers laugh them out of the marketplace.
Dwight Williams (💉 x9)+😷🇨🇦@RachelC_Y @thorsheim The Trumpists are indeed trying to do exactly that.
@thorsheim the sheer insultingness to demand illegal acts is beyond belief and if it was my decision, I'd tell the U.S. ambassador to either get the POTUS to apologize or they can fuck off and the embassy will be closed until they revert course and pay all the dues + interest accumulated in the meantime!
Kevin Karhan :verified: (@[email protected])
@[email protected] @[email protected] just demanding that would likely be a *triple felony* in #Germany: - #Blackmail - #Extortion - #Discrimination I just hope @[email protected] , @[email protected] and @[email protected] [remind](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114290467686346855) the #US #Ambassador they are mere #Guests and that #Diplomats are expected to *comply with local laws and customs* or they get expelled! #NotLegalAdvice #Sarcasm #DEpol #USpol
Rolf Steinort (314.8 ppm)@kkarhan @thorsheim No need to be so offensive. Just mail them the DEI conditions of electricity and water services and if they are not acceptable, cut the service. Just order the water for the ambassadors shower at Amazon….
@rstein @thorsheim that's not how #utilities work:
One cannot unsubscribe to #sewage and having neither #electricity nor #water will get the building condemned.
Same with #BuildingInsurance: They need to have that againdt #fire or the building will be condemned & seized by the City Fire Chief until reinsured retroactively and fully inspected by a Fire Inspector.
@kkarhan @thorsheim Embassies are extraterritorial and out of the area of most local laws. And just to piss off the Trump ambassador I would support bending laws 270 degrees…
WvOostveen@thorsheim
We cannot tell them what to do in murica. But ..
The EU should pass law that American companies operating in Europe, MUST have a fair DEI-policy.
We cannot tell them what to do in murica. But ..
The EU should pass law that American companies operating in Europe, MUST have a fair DEI-policy.
Mirishuli@WvOostveen please, please do this. From the bottom of my heart, Europe please lead the world in this direction.
Stephen Dioxide 
@WvOostveen @thorsheim Yes, this is absolutely what the EU should do. Not only should it not do what the Trump administration wants, it should go out of its way to do the opposite. This is the proper response to bullying.
sortius@thorsheim I prefer the Aussie response to this: garn, get fucked, cunt!
Robert Weißgraeber🇪🇺@thorsheim well, LkSG, CSDDD, CBAM und EUDR do apply to the US, so florida is out because of child labor, right?
Andrew J Spaulding@thorsheim I'm thinking that all the countries except US is thinking what the fuck is wrong with Americans? DEI?
Gilbert Pilz@AJ_andrew69 @thorsheim It's a side-effect of the way U.S. politics works. Of the problems faced by the U.S., DEI ranks at the bottom in terms of impact. But the *idea* of DEI reinforces the notion what white, Christian, men are having their birthright stolen. This is one of the pillars of the fascists appeal so they have to keep inserting DEI everywhere they can.
James Evans@thorsheim Maybe companies providing services to US embassies in Europe could be encouraged to review their customer vetting in response to such requests, and then end provision of services. Not small businesses, I’m thinking big companies providing electricity, gas, water and sewage services. Petty, maybe, but it would make the point.
Viktor Linsel@thorsheim And most importantly: they pay for medical expenses of their employees.
Kethianna@thorsheim No matter what people believe when it comes to DEI, they / the US should have NO say in what we decide over on our part of the Atlantic or what European firms decide to implement. EU is NOT ruled by Washington!
Toni Aittoniemi@thorsheim We might not repel US intellectual property laws that give their companies a huge share of our markets if we’re feeling nice.
Just saying.
xs4me2@thorsheim Plus a healthcare program…
@xs4me2 I did consider adding it in there, but it seemed a bit too much to ask. ;)
Evàl Laura
Kim Possible 
@thorsheim THIS is how you do it! Can you throw in a higher federal minimum wage? It has not been raised since 2007.
toni 
@kimlockhartga Germany didn’t even have a minimum wage before 2015 😿
@toni holy hell!
@kimlockhartga It’s really weird. We have super strong labour unions and laws, but didn’t have that. The argument was always ”the unions will deal with it.“
Stoneface Vimes@thorsheim tell the US government to make different arrangements for their supplies.
@ NovaNaturalist HAS ALSO MOVED@thorsheim
+ on target to reach net zero by 2030.
+ on target to reach net zero by 2030.
Sebastian Hahn@thorsheim Absolute minimum.
Angua 
@thorsheim
Simple, stop selling to the USA.
They refuse to meet EVERYONE else's standards - food, environment, basic human rights etc, so screw the US Government and the horse they rode in on.
Simple, stop selling to the USA.
They refuse to meet EVERYONE else's standards - food, environment, basic human rights etc, so screw the US Government and the horse they rode in on.
@thorsheim
Also stop buying FROM the USA would be good.
The odds are that it was made in China anyway.
Also stop buying FROM the USA would be good.
The odds are that it was made in China anyway.
PeachMcD@thorsheim
should've long since
should've long since
Gary McGraw@thorsheim yes please
Petesmom *has moved*@thorsheim free healthcare too please!
Shirley Eugest@thorsheim
Any of those would be a nice improvement. In reality, employers who bought GOP politicians have figured out how to minimize vacation to no more than a week, no sick pto, hardly any pay for maternity leave, and fair pay is a joke.
Any of those would be a nice improvement. In reality, employers who bought GOP politicians have figured out how to minimize vacation to no more than a week, no sick pto, hardly any pay for maternity leave, and fair pay is a joke.
Karl Heinz Häsliprinz@thorsheim And consumer data protection
Eric Schutte@thorsheim
I would not be surprised if europeans stop doing business (or buying american products) from companies who don’t do #DEI.
And I forgot to tell the US government to go f*ck themselves.
#uspol
Log 🪵@thorsheim Also force US suppliers to allow their US customers to invoke EU data privacy laws.
nanowizthis regime wants to turn us in the North Korea. can there be any doubt?
Think not
that's their motto
Kancept@thorsheim honestly, tell them you do, and good luck with them finding a vendor that doesn't. No services will shut it down and make it easy. Let the trash take itself out of the country.
Dark Phoenix 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇬🇱🇵🇦🇵🇸🏳️🌈