Science took a major hit today, and most didn’t even notice.

The U.S. govt (or better elons cronies) shut down #PubMed, one of the most important, comprehensive, widely used, free database of biomedical and life sciences.

It provided access to millions of research articles clinical studies and reviews.

PubMed was a cornerstone of modern medical and life sciences research.

Edit: It seems to be an DNS issue that has not been resolved yet (for everybody)

It seems DNS servers have been shut down. Situation is unclear, but i guess we can not rely on this source fully anymore. Expect censoring at least.

Check out the european alternative:

https://europepmc.org/

@martinjuhasz it seems it is related to DNS according to

https://tldr.nettime.org/@ww/114089911520112987

ww (@[email protected])

The @[email protected] noticed [1] that something's wrong with PubMed so I did a little investigating with the help of my favourite command line tools, host(1), traceroute(1) and RIPE's BGPPlay tool. The hostname for pubmed is pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov. The DNS zone is ncbi.nlm.nih.gov. DNS zones have serial numbers. That's how secondary nameservers can figure out if something has changed and they should fetch a new copy of the zone to serve. They figure this out using a serial number which, by convention, is a date and a sequence number. % host -t soa ncbi.nlm.nih.gov ncbi.nlm.nih.gov has SOA record dns1-ncbi.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov. systems.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov. 2025022701 10800 5400 2419200 82800 This suggests that the zone was last changed a few days ago. So it's not a DNS change that led to this problem. That zone has seven nameservers. Rather a lot, but not unusual for an old government system, $ host -t ns ncbi.nlm.nih.gov ncbi.nlm.nih.gov name server ns.nih.gov. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov name server ns2.nih.gov. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov name server ns3.nih.gov. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov name server lhcns1.nlm.nih.gov. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov name server lhcns2.nlm.nih.gov. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov name server dns1-ncbi.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov name server dns2-ncbi.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov. Asking these nameservers directly for the address of pubmed, we find that the ones ending with nlm.nih.gov work fine, $ host -4 -t a pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov lhcns1.nlm.nih.gov. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov has address 34.107.134.59 28 min but asking any of the first three does not work: $ host -4 -t a pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov ns.nih.gov. ;; communications error to 128.231.128.251#53: timed out What is wrong with the NIH nameservers? To be continued... [1] https://scholar.social/@researchfairy/114089685773663683

tldr.nettime
@Toch @martinjuhasz Anyways. Wasn't there a group of people, who were rescuing #science data and sources from depublication by the Trump admin? I'm trying to remember names/accounts. Maybe they wanna look into this to see if anything can be saved?

@levampyre @martinjuhasz as Martin has said above there is Europe pmc

According to them

https://europepmc.org/Help#howjournals

They mirror a lot from pmc.

Safeguarding Research & Culture (SRC) — Distributing Cultural Memory

"As researchers we often say 'we need the data'. Today, the data needs us." — Kathy Reid

Safeguarding Research & Culture (SRC) — Distributing Cultural Memory

@martinjuhasz They're not shut down, they're pretty dorked, though.

If you do a "dig www.nih.gov +tcp -t MX", you'll get an answer, but it won't be the MX's for NIH. If you do a "dig nih.gov +tcp -t SOA" you'll get an answer that looks vaguely right. If you don't do TCP, you won't get an answer at all.

Their DNS is broken, but not shut down.

@martinjuhasz Musks actions of destroying scientific institutions and archives feel worse than the burning of Alexandria's library.
PubMed

PubMed® comprises more than 40 million citations for biomedical literature from MEDLINE, life science journals, and online books. Citations may include links to full text content from PubMed Central and publisher web sites.

PubMed

@ErikJonker @martinjuhasz

Clicking that link now; it does not load for me.

Which suggests that whatever configuration mess up happened has not been fixed.

@michael_w_busch @martinjuhasz interesting, for me (in the Netherlands) it works ? 🤔
@ErikJonker @michael_w_busch @martinjuhasz And for me in Germany too.

@hoare_spitall @ErikJonker @michael_w_busch @martinjuhasz

Funny for me (greater Munich area)it ain't 🧐

But this could very well be too much traffic as everyone currently visits the site to see if it's still down 😅

Kinda like a self fulfilling prophecy. Let's hope that is the case.

@Kmachel
Nahh, they have huge loads on a daily basis.

DOGE took down all DNS for nih.gov, it's propagating slowly and unevenly. It may take some days for it to fall everywhere. But if you do have access, take note of the IP if you know how, you could perhaps use that directly.
@hoare_spitall @ErikJonker @michael_w_busch @martinjuhasz

@notsoloud @Kmachel @hoare_spitall @ErikJonker @michael_w_busch @martinjuhasz For me in the UK the IP address resolves to 34.107.134.59.
@notsoloud @Kmachel @hoare_spitall @ErikJonker @michael_w_busch @martinjuhasz Though it doesn't seem to work if I just type that IP address in my browser. Not for me at any rate.
@martinjuhasz The administration has shut down many outlets for truth and fact, which DJT doesn't want you to learn. It's the fascist tactic of funneling all information through their filters.
@martinjuhasz Luckily, many concerned scientists and organizations have been downloading and archiving content from PubMed since the election, to preserve access to the knowledge just in case the service does indeed go dark
@StrangeCulprits
Do you know if anyone has planned to publish a mirror or if they've published it on Anna's archive or such?
@martinjuhasz
@martinjuhasz Holy crap that's a ton of papers just unavailable
@martinjuhasz @femme_mal This is insane!! The API is still returning search results
@martinjuhasz @femme_mal Scratch that! The API is not working now either
PubMed

PubMed® comprises more than 40 million citations for biomedical literature from MEDLINE, life science journals, and online books. Citations may include links to full text content from PubMed Central and publisher web sites.

PubMed
@martinjuhasz Wow, I didn't expect they'd go that far. These kids are really trying to entirely destroy Western civilization. What did the womb do to them that was so awful, I wonder.
@martinjuhasz Knowledge is the enemy of fascism.
@martinjuhasz it's not just that. Access to ANY nih.gov page is blocked from outside the US, and the connections that are accepted are stripped down to http, which means that any credentials used on the site can be read in clear!
@martinjuhasz bring important #databases to other servers in other countries. #trump and #musk will destroy all such data. #exodus of critical #data #dataprotection #canada #eu #iceland
@martinjuhasz it seems to be up? maybe they just took down some stuff?
@martinjuhasz
C'est exact ! Pour l'instant on ne peut plus se connecter.
Le commun des gens, qui ne savent pas que ça existe et encore moins à quoi ça sert, ne peuvent pas mesurer la dimension planétaire de la catastrophe. Si quelqu'un, ou quelques uns qui en ont la possibilité matérielle et le courage, ne "les" arrêtent pas *par la force*, c'est l'effondrement des US et de leurs affidés auquel il faut se préparer. Si Trump n'est pas tout simplement un agent russe, c'est l'#Antéchrist.
@martinjuhasz I tried PubMed just now and my search worked normally. Is this shutdown something that will take effect later?

@dedicto @martinjuhasz So there is no announced shutdown as far as I know.

What it looks like is someone screwed up some important pieces of NIH's core internet infrastructure, causing routing instability on top of them configuring their DNS server or firewall to not accept DNS traffic over a transport protocol that a lot of DNS resolvers are configured to exclusively use, so depending on who your ISP is, what DNS resolver your computer uses to look up domain names, and how it is configured, you may or may not be able to connect to PubMed and a whole host of other federal sites.

That's why it works normally for some people and not for others.

There are some other weird mistakes, but they're less relevant for what's currently going on with PubMed.

@martinjuhasz Holy shit. So vital. So many times I have used it in my work. Why???
@martinjuhasz If #PubMed is truly shut down, and not just glitched, this would be a disaster. Makes sense the #tRump and #musk would do this, they seem to be campaigning against knowledge.

@martinjuhasz @starhawk Werks on my machine.

Firing people randomly is bound to cause things to fail just from insufficient or insufficiently trained staff.

@martinjuhasz If/When the DNS comes back up, someone should archive it in zim format https://zimit.kiwix.org/#/
Zimit

PubMed

PubMed® comprises more than 40 million citations for biomedical literature from MEDLINE, life science journals, and online books. Citations may include links to full text content from PubMed Central and publisher web sites.

PubMed
@martinjuhasz it's telling that a DNS server breaks and the reasonable assumption is that PubMed got DOGEd

@martinjuhasz hurray for edits on mastodon. Was just checking and pubmed seemed online to me.

Another case where it was DNS even when it did not seem so at first.

The sad thing is that pubmed getting pulled is no longer unthinkable.