Linux-on-mobile folks: I hope you’re paying attention to the new Linux VM stuff in Android 15.

I genuinely think one of the most important approaches to building the Linux mobile ecosystem is to enable people to get (and fall in love with!) our app ecosystem on the phone *and OS* they already use.

It’s critical to build the whole experience (like we see with GNOME and PostmarketOS), but we need to meet people where they are, first.

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@cassidy #GTK apps are leagues better of an experience than their counterpart Android apps. The only exception is maybe #Moshidon

Would be nice if #Android peeps could discover the glory of our ecosystem.

However, I still maintain that the biggest advantage of #MobileLinux is avoiding Google's OS builtin spyware and data exfiltration. Ditching the OS is paramount. Discovering GTK apps is a great way to help get there.

@Lehmanator @cassidy Strongly disagree on the 'experience' comparing GTK to Android apps. It heavily matters on the apps you use, and is completely subjective.

See: my experience. GTK apps seem much simpler or less complex than Qt apps, for example. GNOME Calendar? It can only read from my WebDAV (Radicale v3), while Google Calendar on my phone can R/W, same for Google Contacts. GNOME's Contacts didn't even support importing or syncing WebDAV, telling me to do it through GNOME Software. GNOME(org) apps in particular are quite basic and lacking in general.

What about video editing? Pitivi is great for simple-ish stuff, but Kdenlive is where it's at when it comes to the 'heavy' stuff.

Maps? Organic Maps, Google Maps, any Android map app has more features than GNOME Maps.

DataBackup, App Manager, Google Translate, the Google app itself with Lens, Assistant and Gemini support/integrations, to name a few, are still strongly above any Linux-based apps that do the same thing, way above GTK-based apps as well.

@alextecplayz @cassidy Is there a single decent video editor on Android?

- For simple edits, I use [Footage](https://flathub.org/apps/io.gitlab.adhami3310.Footage), which is decent enough (mostly for editing Smash clips pulled from my Switch) on #LinuxMobile

- GNOME Maps for sure is worse than #OrganicMaps, but I don't use my #OnePlus6T on #GnomeMobile as a daily driver yet.

- [Dialect](https://dialectapp.org) works about as well as #LibreTranslate (the best FOSS app I've used on Android)

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@alextecplayz @cassidy #GoogleLens is one of the only features I miss since switching to #GrapheneOS. Very useful with no #FOSS alternatives on any platform afaik. I suppose this could be done with an extension for #GnomeShell, OCR, image classification models, & reverse image search.

#GoogleAssistant too, but there's already a decent stack with #FasterWhisper & #Wyoming with #HomeAssistant. I'd like to build a #GTK client to integrate with this on #Linux systems.

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- In my usage #DejaVuBackup & #PikaBackups both work very well. #Celeste too for syncing files with #Nextcloud

- Everything #AppManager does is possible w/ #Flatseal, #GnomeSoftware, & opening #flatpak manifests or specific to #Android activities, which are loosely analogous to #DBus services, which #DSpy works well for.

- Never used #Gemini, but #Alpaca works super well with communicating w/ #LLMs via #Ollama. Would make for an awesome #GNOME #SearchProvider

@alextecplayz @cassidy I appreciate you pointing this out because doing this comparison as an exercise is useful to point out where the #FOSS, #GNOME, & #MobileLinux ecosystems are lacking. It's v conducive to generating ideas that would push the platform forward.

@alextecplayz @cassidy Similarly useful for this would be daily driving #MobileLinux...which I've been meaning to work towards.

Haven't tested my #pmos #OnePlus6T with a SIM card yet, but afaik the camera is the only thing that's broken that I cannot go without. But I'd be okay with lugging around my #GrapheneOS #Pixel as a backup when necessary.

I have a second 6T for testing #MobileNixOS, but I left it at my friend's place on a trip. Once I get it back, I'll daily drive the other one.

@Lehmanator i daily drive the #oneplus6t (on #pmos stable) and yes, the camera is unfortunately still missing. however, there is still a "call issue", too, which means you have to restart the phone after each call to be able to hear the person on the other end on the next call. very annoying. i hope this gets resolved in the near future:) everything else works (f.ex. gps)