KloudJun 28, 2024
David Stark

Today we're waiting for an IKEA delivery that, according to their email, will be a 10x10x10 cm box weighing 14 kg.

So density-wise that has to contain berkelium, californium, protactinium, tantalum, uranium, gold, tungsten, plutonium, neptunium, rhenium, platinum, iridium, or osmium.

We're of course hoping for platinum, and really not for plutonium, because the critical mass is 11 kg...

Jun 28, 2024 at 7:05amWeb
Show threadJenny ChaseJun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen well that's exciting. I also hope it is not plutonium.
Show threadKathy MurdochJun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen Love that you went to the time to work this out :D
Show threadMans RJun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen Does it have to be an element?
Show threadCoreo Jones (coreopsismajor)Jun 28, 2024
@mansr @Zarkonnen probably not but ionic salts of those elements that are dense enough would likely not be dense enough because of the nature of how bonds create space and make compounds overall lower density than pure elements. Alloys combining some of the elements might be in the density range, maybe? Offhand that's my answer but I never took inorganic chemistry
Show threadglasspshrJun 29, 2024

@coreo @mansr @Zarkonnen

It doesn’t have to be an element. Tungsten carbide has a density of 15.6 g/cc

Show threadCoreo Jones (coreopsismajor)Jun 29, 2024
@glasspusher @mansr @Zarkonnen holy crap that's w lot of g per cc
Show threadMoceletJun 29, 2024
@mansr @Zarkonnen Also it could be an alloy of some of those elements.
Show threadMichael KohneJun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen If it's plutonium, I don't think the delivery is going to arrive.
Show threadWladimir PalantJun 28, 2024
@mhkohne @Zarkonnen It could, if it is split in two parts with a neutron catcher in between. Don’t know whether the available space is sufficient for that though.
Show threadFrédéric GrosshansJun 28, 2024
@WPalant @mhkohne @Zarkonnen Since it's IKEA, it comes with set of drawings explaining how to assemble the two halves
Show threadÐДѷє ۷ǿȵ ຣJun 28, 2024
@fgrosshans @WPalant @mhkohne @Zarkonnen I guess the name Dämön Sför should have given a clue
Show threadAnders NorénJul 1, 2024
@Dave_von_S @fgrosshans @WPalant @mhkohne @Zarkonnen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_core
Demon core - Wikipedia

Show threadSven (retired)Jun 29, 2024
@fgrosshans @WPalant @mhkohne @Zarkonnen
Show threadWladimir PalantJun 29, 2024
@Sven @fgrosshans @mhkohne @Zarkonnen As usual: bullshit generator (a.k.a. “AI”) produces bullshit. This drawing makes not sense whatsoever. It may be somewhat inspired by nuclear reactor design, but…
Show threadSune Stolborg VuorelaJun 30, 2024
@WPalant @Sven @fgrosshans @mhkohne @Zarkonnen using a bullshit generator to help generate shitposts and cheap silly jokes sounds spot on
Show threadWilfried KlaebeSep 24, 2024

@WPalant An alloy of Plutonium and Boron maybe?

@mhkohne @Zarkonnen

Show threadgrob (teeth era) 🇺🇦🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Jun 29, 2024
@mhkohne @Zarkonnen that's exactly what happened. They sent out a blahaj instead to apologize for not delivering. I'd look up where it was packaged and update my avoid list on the nav app.
Show threadDr. SobekJun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9wmWZbr_wQ
Marvin Martian - Wheres the Kaboom?

YouTube
Show threadChris Gioran 💔Jun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen Perhaps it's a tiny black hole (Schwarzschild radius is ~2x10^-23 mm) and the rest is padding?
Show threadgomJun 28, 2024
@chrisg
That's no padding, it's some serious space-time folding to enable transportation of an singularity at all. 0.0
@Zarkonnen
Show threadDr David MillsJun 28, 2024
@gom @chrisg @Zarkonnen just surround it with enough books and let l-space do the rest.
Show threadPossumanthaJun 28, 2024
@chrisg @Zarkonnen I have found frame dragging makes packaging a black hole difficult.
Show threadChris Gioran 💔Jun 28, 2024
@kastope @Zarkonnen For a small additional fee you can get the non spinning black hole version, for your packaging convenience.
Show threadAlaric Snell-PymJun 28, 2024
@chrisg @kastope @Zarkonnen hawking radiation from one that size might be an issue...
Show threadkaPOTTkeSep 25, 2024
@kitten_tech @chrisg @kastope @Zarkonnen does it evaporate before it's arrives
Show threadPossumanthaJun 28, 2024
@chrisg @Zarkonnen non spinning black holes aren't good for my use case. I'm trying to spin up a naked singularity by colliding smaller ones with the same spin.
Show threadJürgen SchieweJun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen @chrisg padded with lost matter?
Show threadXanSteelJun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen what if it’s lead weights?
Show threadLuna LacteaJun 28, 2024
@xansteel @Zarkonnen Not dense enough!
Show threadXanSteelJun 28, 2024
@jackemled @Zarkonnen and now i feel dense enough lol.
Show threadJeremy KahnJun 28, 2024

@Zarkonnen

"Your package could not be delivered, because the warehouse center has been obliterated by a fission fireball. Click [here] to request redelivery."

Show threadVelvetJun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen I am now imagining demon cores sitting on Ikea shelves...
Show threadPhil Dennis-JordanJun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen Are you sure you didn’t order Ikea’s MÖRKMATERIA?
Show threadCegorachJun 28, 2024

@Zarkonnen @leyrer well… at least we don't require you to keep us updated

we will hear about it if it was plutonium!

Show threadAMSJun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen Could be some fun refractory ceramic like TaC, or Ta4Hf1C5.
Show threadKernel Bob Jun 28, 2024

@Zarkonnen 14 Kg of gold would be okay, too.

What dimensions and weight are listed in the product description?

Show threadUlrik Nyman ⬡Jun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen it is the Töngsten lamp
Show threadKeksKopfJun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen on the other hand Plutonium would explain why it didn't arrive yet...
Show threadPaul  Jun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen Maybe they're just bad at units?
Show threadColin H.Jun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen KÅBUM
Show threadnjwattJun 29, 2024
@GlasWolf @Zarkonnen underrated
Show threadDan Neuman 🇨🇦Jun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen It's more likely hopium, which is known to be very dense.
Show threadfuzzfaceJun 28, 2024
@dan613 @Zarkonnen Depending on the type of Pu, it may just be on fire... long before it gets to you.
Show threadMethylzeroJun 28, 2024

@Zarkonnen I was curious so I had to look this one up...apparently Pu-239 has a critical mass of 10 kg and a sphere diameter of 9.9 cm. So its too light. A cube of the stuff would be ~19.1 kg. So unless it is a lumpy sphere, you are fine.

The other elements are left as an exercise to the reader.

Show threadAlaric Snell-PymJun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen plutonium sheets with some neutron-absorbing spacers to keep it calm would be pretty neat!
Show threadBrian WebsterJun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen @sanguish The box obviously contains Stonehenge.
Show threadPhil Thane ✅Jun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen
IKEA MDF is seriously heavy.
Show threadWilfried KlaebeSep 24, 2024

@pthane Would that still count as *medium* dense then?

@Zarkonnen

Show threadPhil Thane ✅Sep 24, 2024
@wonka
Probably have to. Has anyone ever seen HDF? I used to see plenty of LDF used for pinboards or temporary partitions but never encountered HDF. I imagine it would be too heavy to have much practical use.
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Show threadWilfried KlaebeSep 24, 2024

@pthane https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardboard sounds like it does actually exist.

@Zarkonnen

Hardboard - Wikipedia

Show threadRose, Skaven Mars PriestessJun 28, 2024

@Zarkonnen

1) this is hilarious

2) on my first read I read "10x10x10 cm box containing 1 dog" because my eyes decided 14 kg could be seen as 1 dog? dunno.

Show threadʕ•ᴥ•ʔJun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen Only once I encounter something of that density; it was a handbag. At some point in time, but then it became critical and might have started a black hole or so....
Show threadZ̈oéJun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen under high enough pressure, you can temporarily increase the density of solids!!
Show threadRalph AngenendtJun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen Gold actually is the more expensive one by weight currently. Were it volume only, I’d also hope for platinum.
Show threadDany Jun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen if its two half spheres you need to jam the little Allen key in between them.
Show threadJason Anthony GuyJun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen it’s the instructions. Have you seen how dense those are?
Show threadLinh PhamJun 28, 2024
@Zarkonnen If I they did invent something like a small TARDIS, just think of how many Blåhaj they could stuff into something 1000 cm^3 🤔