Pauline von Hellermann#ClimateDiary Yep, this is where we are at.
#ClimateDiary where i really want to share this graph is in family, friend, neighbourhood, etc WhatsApp groups. Which is what I used to do, 2019-2023. I know, in theory i could just post. But in practice it really does become impossible to keep on doing it for 5 years when the messaging from everyone is clear: we don’t want to hear; you’ve told us before. Deathly silence, every time.
Jonathan Schofield@pvonhellermannn it’s soul destroying.
I’m thinking on this and pretty much everything else Vanessa said https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/112542527498426551
@urlyman i really must finally read that book!
@pvonhellermannn me too. But, if you haven’t already listened to it, the conversation linked to is really great.
Including recommendations not to read the book!
@urlyman 😄 ok will start with this!
@pvonhellermannn for me, the key reflection is that information is not what we’re lacking.
I find that particularly hard to accept because my career is about providing information
@pvonhellermannn I need to begin to act on this https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/111873414086211148
Kevin Trepanier@pvonhellermannn Unfortunately, I think this speaks in a lot of case of how powerless people feel about this issue. Why learn how dire the situation is and get filled with anxiety if we don't feel like whatever we do (individually) has any impact on it at all?
Ko-Fan Chen 陳克帆@pvonhellermannn I was visiting a former colleague, they had a child a few years older than mine and I was genuinely trying to see how they prepare their child for the cliff edge of climate catastrophe and how they are reducing their carbon footprint in general.....nothing. 😔
@kofanchen i think about this a lot, with evolving takes; it’s very hard. A few years back i listened to a podcast interviewing an anthropologist who teaches survival skills to billionaires and he said the most important skills were not bear traps or whatever but critical thinking and cooperation. That’s what i am sticking to for now. But right now at skate world watching 11y very cautiously doing his rounds and just feeling v sad for him and all other youngsters here.
ulistopper@pvonhellermannn I know exactly how it feels. 🙁
#ClimateDiary adding this Alan Rusbridger article: about @wblau showing the above graph ⬆️ and others to the Dutch king and queen, anongst a room full of journalist; reflecting on the contrasting absence of #ClimateEmergency discussion in UK elections. #GE2024
Michał Kawalec@pvonhellermannn
Do we know the source of the step change in the last two years? I'm hearing it can be the sulfur ban in bunker oil but maybe there are other sources?
Do we know the source of the step change in the last two years? I'm hearing it can be the sulfur ban in bunker oil but maybe there are other sources?
@monad_cat i am not an expert but yes, apart from el nino (ehich had an impact last year but doesn’t explain overall, sustained step change) the sulphur ban is def a possible explanation. Hansen suggested this in a paper last year that the majority of climate scientists were sceptical of, eg M Mann, but i think slowly others are considering this explanation too. However, still not fully accepted so may not be right.
Adding this recent article just shared by @abm0
Abrupt reduction in shipping emission as an inadvertent geoengineering termination shock produces substantial radiative warming - Communications Earth & Environment
Shipping fuel regulations in 2020 that reduced sulfur dioxide emissions by 80% led to substantial warming over parts of the oceans, according to simulations with Earth system, machine learning, and energy balance models, suggesting a termination shock after marine cloud geoengineering could be severe.
@pvonhellermannn
Thank you! I'm wondering if there is any escape from having to add some targeted geoenineering to our unplanned geoenineering so our systems don't collapse. I'm thinking of high altitude sulfur injections and the like.
Thank you! I'm wondering if there is any escape from having to add some targeted geoenineering to our unplanned geoenineering so our systems don't collapse. I'm thinking of high altitude sulfur injections and the like.
enoch_exe_inc@pvonhellermannn Even without looking at the data, I can say for a fact that it definitely feels hotter this year than it did last year, and the year before that, and so on.
@enoch_exe_inc yes, it’s the combination of graphs, your experiences, and of course daily horrific climate news from many different parts of the world (85 dead on India’s heatwave, birds falling dead from sky, etc etc). It couldn’t be any clearer; all the evidence is there. #ClimateDiary
Tom Ritchford@enoch_exe_inc @pvonhellermannn With all due respect, if we allow your personal experience, we have to allow all those other personal experiences where people say, "My region has been just fine".
Personal experience has no scientific value in a matter as huge as "the climate of the entire Earth". Only hard data has value.
Hmmm. I fully see your point,and scientific methods speaking you are right, of course. Nevertheless, in terms of accepting that this really is happening, right now, at a personal level: it helps to bring it home if graphs, news, and your own experiences all correlate.
@TomSwirly @enoch_exe_inc @pvonhellermannn Yes, that’s true, and I’m in no way implying my anecdotal evidence carries any scientific weight. But I thought it was worth sharing given that I live in Canada, the True North, the country that’s widely perceived as vast, empty, and cold.
Simon Johnson@enoch_exe_inc @TomSwirly @pvonhellermannn I read a report some years back on a study into the impact of TV weather forecasters on people’s understanding and perception
It seems that, as trusted, friendly, familiar faces who land in viewers’ living rooms pretty much every day, forecasters who drew connections between the weather patterns they described and the climate change that was making some of them more likely, really helped people get it 1/2
@enoch_exe_inc @TomSwirly @pvonhellermannn 2/2
Ok, questions over causation, attribution, etc but relating what people experienced as abstract scientific concepts to their everyday experiences really helped make the science real for people and shifted attitudes
So much better than the usual “Fantastic! The heatwave continues - break open the ice cream and drive to the seaside” that we invariably get
Ralf Stubner@Simon318ppm @enoch_exe_inc @TomSwirly @pvonhellermannn indeed!I am pretty sure that @terliwetter has been very important here in Germany, helping to spread the science about #GlobalWarming.
Grant@Simon318ppm @enoch_exe_inc @TomSwirly @pvonhellermannn
FWIW..
In France, climate change is constantly referred to in the weather programs.
_noelamac_@enoch_exe_inc @pvonhellermannn If interested, you can have a look at the visualisations of temperature data in below link.
Click on the climate data of your choice and then you can narrow down the data worth the grey field.
Julianoë@pvonhellermannn
@joachim do we have the keys to determine if this is short term anomaly in a path to global rising or if this is the clue of passed tipping points that put us a whole new trajectory?
@joachim do we have the keys to determine if this is short term anomaly in a path to global rising or if this is the clue of passed tipping points that put us a whole new trajectory?
@Julianoe @joachim i really am not and expert; it could be that but it could also be the sulfur/ aerosol ban in shipping. See this
Pauline von Hellermann (@[email protected])
@[email protected] i am not an expert but yes, apart from el nino (ehich had an impact last year but doesn’t explain overall, sustained step change) the sulphur ban is def a possible explanation. Hansen suggested this in a paper last year that the majority of climate scientists were sceptical of, eg M Mann, but i think slowly others are considering this explanation too. However, still not fully accepted so may not be right. Adding this recent article just shared by @[email protected] https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-024-01442-3
xs4me2Very worrying…
And beyond 3 sigma of a stable process… we are changing the rules of the weather behavior and we depend on it for our survival… very worrying indeed.
Change is needed.
Jan Steen@pvonhellermannn @pkuipersmunneke kan dit niet eens aan de orde komen in het journaal...?
Andrew"In this author's opinion, anyone with any shred of empathy could hardly not feel completely ripped apart inside in the knowledge that rampant climate change, coupled with all pervasive materialism, and a crisis of legitimacy will directly cause the completely avoidable suffering and deaths of many hundreds of millions, if not billions of people."
#climatechange #climatecatastrophe #climatediary #death #humannature #dread #existentialism #love
Lord Caramac the Clueless, KSC@v4169sgr @pvonhellermannn I've been aware that I would most likely see the collapse of everything within my lifetime since I was a child in the 1980s. I'm angry and sad, but mostly I am just tired because I've been angry for decades.
@LordCaramac @v4169sgr yes, the tiredness.. i feel that too. With far fewer years of awareness than you.
@pvonhellermannn @v4169sgr I was born in 1975, and I was already interested in science and engineering at the age of five. In 1983 when I was eight, I was already aware of the mutiple ways people were ruining this planet and the role of industry.
bmaxv@pvonhellermannn how many standard deviations is that now? :)
pinkdrunkenelephants@pvonhellermannn So what the fuck happened last year that kicked it into overdrive? That's the real question
@pinkdrunkenelephants please look at responses doscussing this!
@pvonhellermannn There is no response in the thread that answers my question.
Steve Oh 🇺🇸💙✊🟰🗽🇺🇦
Piotr Bialecki@pvonhellermannn what are the units on Y axis?
Walrus 🏴It's too late to do anything, isn't it?
Ma10gan ♠️Ⓥ
PalmAndNeedle@pvonhellermannn we're fucked. Ain't we?
Rhinos Worry Me
Matias Aunola 🚲🌈@pvonhellermannn perfectly normal. Or not.
Lux 
@pvonhellermannn the last half of your alt text is very confusing; listing the digits is not useful at all.
It could be rephrased like this :
A widely used and shared graph showing 1991-2024 sea surface temperature anomalies across each year.
1991-2020 in blue lines more or less one big block, ie diverging and going up but incrementally, between -3.5 degrees and +2 degres.
2023 is in yellow, much higher than the rest, between +2 and +4 degrees.
2024 is in red, EVEN higher, between +3 and +4.5 degrees and increasing.