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So when do we put a stop to this feodalist capitalist horror that is also destroying our planet now?
Janis@bhasic People are trying. We need a more effective way to get through. Whacha got? https://www.weforum.org/press/2022/04/private-equity-firms-can-be-catalysts-to-fighting-climate-change-here-is-how/
@janisf Capitalism can't be fixed by more capitalism. Labor movement is the only entity big enough that could change things. It has done it before.
Voting only slows things getting full fascist and corporate rule. It's what capitalism is meant to become and politics is just a brake for its progress.
Voting only slows things getting full fascist and corporate rule. It's what capitalism is meant to become and politics is just a brake for its progress.
@bhasic
Sudden change is what kills.
Look, my 90-year-old mom needs her Medicare, and Social Security. Fprgive me for being pro-system, but a whole lot of Americans are getting their basic needs met with it. I'm not OK with movements that threaten lives.
@janisf The state is socialist. School, library, army, healthcare, social security is socialsim. Capital wants to destroy those so it can profit from them.
@bhasic Yeah, well, Wall Street is communism. It's why they call it, "publicly owned." Insurance is socialism, just not managed by the state.
I'd bet you'll like this, if you haven't heard of it yet. I checked it out when my kiddo got a scholarship to UChicago. https://www.capitalisnt.com/
Also gotta say, Milton Freedman said capitalism would collapse under too much required taxation--and he wasn't talking about state taxes, he was talking about rent.
Capitalisn't
Is capitalism the engine of destruction or the engine of prosperity? On this podcast we talk about the ways capitalism isβor more often isnβtβworking in our world today. Hosted by Vanity Fair contributing editor, Bethany McLean and world renowned economics professor Luigi Zingales, we explain how capitalism can go wrong, and what we can do to fix it. Cover photo attributions: https://www.chicagobooth.edu/research/stigler/about/capitalisnt. If you would like to send us feedback, suggestions for guests we should bring on, or connect with Bethany and Luigi, please email: contact at capitalisnt dot com. If you like our show, we'd greatly appreciate you giving us a rating or a review. It helps other listeners find us too.
π π π§@Radical_EgoCom @bhasic It is for anyone who can afford it. That's where Bernie Sanders got his, "Socialism for the rich, rugged individualism for the poor" speech line.
Here: https://www.capitalisnt.com/
Get to know the system you're looking to burn down. You'll know where to light it.
What's not socialism or communism is Private Equity and privately owned businesses, and outside the Biggest 80 or so public corp,s is the bulk of cash flow.
Capitalisn't
Is capitalism the engine of destruction or the engine of prosperity? On this podcast we talk about the ways capitalism isβor more often isnβtβworking in our world today. Hosted by Vanity Fair contributing editor, Bethany McLean and world renowned economics professor Luigi Zingales, we explain how capitalism can go wrong, and what we can do to fix it. Cover photo attributions: https://www.chicagobooth.edu/research/stigler/about/capitalisnt. If you would like to send us feedback, suggestions for guests we should bring on, or connect with Bethany and Luigi, please email: contact at capitalisnt dot com. If you like our show, we'd greatly appreciate you giving us a rating or a review. It helps other listeners find us too.
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Well luckily socialist and communist movements aren't movements that threaten lives in that they would also ensure social security and medical care, and even more so because socialism/communism ensures these things as basic human rights available to everyone no matter what, unlike in capitalism.
Well luckily socialist and communist movements aren't movements that threaten lives in that they would also ensure social security and medical care, and even more so because socialism/communism ensures these things as basic human rights available to everyone no matter what, unlike in capitalism.
@Radical_EgoCom @bhasic There's plenty of talk about violent revolution, and revolutionary change in a short period of time will leave the most vulnerable to take up the slack. The rest of us are working on state healthcare plans that wrest the good coverage away from employers, and more-available subsidized housing. I'd say those are solid incremental changes. And they are happening.
Jeremy List@Radical_EgoCom @janisf @bhasic yeah as far as strategy goes the only thing we need violence for is dealing with people who bring violence to us: the thing that will actually bring the old system down is simply offering people a better deal than it does (in a sense we do already but we don't have the participation required to do so effectively)
@jeremy_list @Radical_EgoCom @bhasic Bingo.
If you want traction, go to church. I'm pretty convinced you can see the logic behind that.
@jeremy_list @Radical_EgoCom @bhasic We wait until capitalism is offering enough people a s*y deal. I think we're mostly there. We just have to sell it.