Mastodawn

ragrum Mar 21, 2024

We started this account less than 6 months ago. It's going pretty well – thanks to you: 4.2k followers, lots of interactions, questions, and comments. 🎉

A couple of weeks ago, the European Broadcasting Union (#EBU) asked us to write a guest article about our experience with #Mastodon / the #Fediverse, explain the basics, and point out the advantages.

Challenge accepted. 👍

So here's the finished post by @lxplm, hot off the #blog press. ⌨️

🔽
https://www.ebu.ch/news/2024/03/public-broadcasters-of-europe-lets-all-join-mastadon

Public Broadcasters of Europe, Let's All Join Mastodon!

In this guest post, Alexander Plaum, Innovation Manager at Deutsche Welle (DW), writes about his team's exceptionally positive experience with microblogging in the Fediverse. He also explains why all public broadcasting professionals should try out Mastodon.

Dr. Quadragon ❌Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation Hey, next step - Deutsche Welle's own server?

Nazar Tokar Mar 24, 2024

@drq we'll see who's server get more attention, DW or BBC :)

tallship Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm

And another journo gets it wrong again.

Maho 🦝🍻Mar 20, 2024

@tallship @dw_innovation @lxplm could you ellaborate?

Ed Davies Mar 20, 2024

@tallship What do you think they get wrong? There are other (significantly lower) estimates of the number of users on Mastodon (or the Fediverse ???) than the one referenced in that article but other than that I thought it was all pretty reasonable.

I look forward to DW setting up their own instance.

@dw_innovation @lxplm

OX Bunte Panther Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm lets goooo

Erik Uden 🚩Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation first ESC on the Fediverse ;)?

Nemo_bis 🌈Mar 20, 2024

@ErikUden @dw_innovation yess, EBU #PeerTube instance when

Wouter Tebbens Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm

Cc @abaratsits @voxeurop @eurozine @VPROMedialab @social

John Robinson Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm Nice summary of where we’re at 😀

Rotfarm Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm I think a reluctance exists because people have forgotten how to actually be social in a non curated sense of self. To actually make friends with strangers online, or to actually take the time to be part of a community by engaging with people on a level that may be less parasocial.

kahakai Mar 20, 2024

@rotfarm thank you 💯

I wanted to hear that from someone again. This is the reason for me and all what fediverse is about that I'm advocating to people for.

Rotfarm Mar 20, 2024

@kahakai I think there's a level in de-escalating yhe ways that social media takes space in our lives, both as a viewer, and a user. I don't think it's an easy flip at all. It's not flashy, the people aren't either. We are just being little weirdos by ourselves and with eachother lol.

db0 Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation Since you're posting mostly articles, do consider (cross-)posting to #lemmy as well, as it's way more set for these sort of posts. You can even post in to lemmy from mastodon by @-ing the community you want.

Maho 🦝🍻Mar 20, 2024

@db0 @dw_innovation is there a @FediTips explaining this?

Fedi.Tips Mar 20, 2024

I don't recommend Lemmy, sorry.(More info: https://social.growyourown.services/@FediTips/112123530449596792)

Fedi.Tips (@[email protected])

Years ago I used to recommend a Fedi platform called Lemmy. However, in 2021 some very disturbing stuff about Lemmy's developers came out which totally changed my mind. Because of this, I did a thread to warn people about Lemmy and then never mentioned them again. Today a mod on this account's old server deleted the 2021 thread, without any explanation but apparently by mistake. If you're looking for the thread, it's on the Internet Archive: ➡️ https://web.archive.org/web/20230603001819/https://mstdn.social/@feditips/106835057054633379 #Lemmy #HumanRights

social.growyourown.services

soaproot Mar 20, 2024

@mapache @db0 @dw_innovation @FediTips As you can see this rabbit hole can get a bit deep but some search terms which might be a bit more promising are: #Threadiverse #Kbin #PieFed #sublinks . This part of the Fediverse is a bit less well developed than the microblogging part but there has been a lot of activity in recent months and I have every reason to expect further development (both technically and in terms of things like moderation tools and standards).

@mapache @db0 @dw_innovation Lemmy works similar to guppe groups, if you are posting to them at least, by mentioning the group handle

Following a Lemmy community from Mastodon unfortunately will fill your feed with any comment posted to the group :/

I’d love to either find or make a project that cleans up following Lemmy communities on other fediverse platforms tho

db0 Mar 20, 2024

@grant @mapache @dw_innovation the @tagginator might help in the interim

Maho 🦝🍻Mar 20, 2024

@grant @db0 @dw_innovation I know! I subscribed to a memes thread, and altho the memes are nice, the comments were adding a lot of noise to my feed so I decided to unsubscribe.

@dw_innovation @lxplm Glad it's going so well!

Will (old/moving to beige)Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm read and found this interesting and positive. Followed you as a result.

https://www.ebu.ch/news/2024/03/public-broadcasters-of-europe-lets-all-join-mastodon

Public Broadcasters of Europe, Let's All Join Mastodon!

In this guest post, Alexander Plaum, Innovation Manager at Deutsche Welle (DW), writes about his team's exceptionally positive experience with microblogging in the Fediverse. He also explains why all public broadcasting professionals should try out Mastodon.

Ross of Ottawa Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm thanks for being a trail blazer for media outlets.

Maho 🦝🍻Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm I do not see this post in LinkedIn! I would like to repost it!

Alex Plaum Mar 20, 2024

@mapache @dw_innovation

Here's my post on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/alexanderplaum_public-broadcasters-of-europe-lets-all-activity-7176163127141531648-h8qD?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

DW Innovation and the EBU will probably post/share this tomorrow or on Friday (there's a schedule).

Alexander Plaum on LinkedIn: Public Broadcasters of Europe, Let's All Join Mastodon!

Traditional, centralized, for-profit social media are a problem. We all know why. Sure, there are more civilized platforms (like LinkedIn) and outright…

Hallo@dw_innovation
Vielen Dank Alexander @lxplm fürs teilen und für die gute Zusammenfassung.
Deine Worte in der ÖRR Ohren.

Alex Plaum Mar 20, 2024

@Ruhrnalist Danke dir. Lass uns die Daumen drücken, dass dieses Jahr noch ein bisschen was geht bei ARD und ZDF.

April (@39c3) The Pink ⋆☾╶⃝⃤☽⋆ [AS208709]Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm as we german queers say: gute Arbeit boop!

mvc1095 (they)Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm thanks for this excellent summary! i work at a large public university and will share this as i try to convince them to jump here from ex-Twitter 👍🏽

Juho Mäntysalo Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm

Reminds me of a reddit-post where a smallish game developer noted that while their game sold a fraction on linux than it did on windows, 95% of bug reports came from linux and almost all were applicable to improving the windows-version. Better yet: the bug reports were detailed and easy to replicate.

So they upkept the linux-version not for the sales, but for the feedback that allowed the improvement on Windows -- which in turn led to sales.

disky Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm Wonderful post. emerging social media platforms are a difficult beast but Mastodon really is one of the best, with the best community I've found since the days of the dial-up BBS. It's inspiring and hopeful, and platforms like DW are vital to its success, so thank you for the report.

S.R. Weaver Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm

That was a switch I wasnt expecting. Glad to have you here.

Andy Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm great article, I hope it gains traction and resonates with a wider audience.

Michael Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm daaaaaaaaaaaaamnnn

@gavinkarlmeier

Steinar Bang Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm Interesting article!

I've been lobbying Norwegian public broadcaster NRK for a couple of years now and have mainly been met with a lack of interest.

I think the main reason is that they see it as "just another twitter wannabe" and I have been unable to communicate what ActivityPub means.

I.e. "you don't have to be dependent on anyone else's infrastructure. You can set up your own server in your own domain and people will follow you there" doesn't register.

Oh well!

Steinar Bang Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm Hmm... what I've been trying to sell in is almost exactly what you say in the last paragraph there "The Mastodon Moment" (tried to link directly there but there was no id or anchor on the element to link to. Maybe an idea to make that section directly linkable?)

Nazar Tokar Mar 24, 2024

@steinarb @lxplm this post could be a good reason for NRK to give it a try.

On the other hand, DW doesn't seem to have an account here, only @dw_innovation

Steinar Bang Mar 25, 2024

@nazar @lxplm @dw_innovation I first tried lobbying NRKBeta, which used to be the equivalent of dw_innovation.

Thought it would be right up their alley, but no luck yet.

https://nrkbeta.no

NRKbeta

Nazar Tokar Mar 25, 2024

@steinarb @lxplm @dw_innovation and how popular mastodon among Norwegians?

Steinar Bang Mar 25, 2024

@nazar I honestly don't know. 🙂

I am the only one I've met that has talked about it in real life and I know about a handful of others.

So probably not very popular (or "known" for that matter).

I wonder if there are statistics out there?

Nazar Tokar Mar 25, 2024

@steinarb people usually create accounts on local servers. I've found this instance but it seems to be offline:

https://icedtux.no

But I think there should be more of them.

Mastodon

Mastodon instance from Norway, open to everybody.

Mastodon hosted on icedtux.no

Steinar Bang Mar 25, 2024

@nazar Oh there are several servers.

Biggest one is https://snabelen.no/explore I think.

But there is also https://oslo.town/explore and probably others.

(but I don't know much, if anything, about them)

snabelen.no

Ein norsk heimstad for den desentraliserte mikroblogge-plattformen.

Mastodon hosted on snabelen.no

Nazar Tokar Mar 25, 2024

@steinarb thanks mate!

@dw_innovation @lxplm

First of my wishlist is #ArteTV

radioactivestardust Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm 🥰

Arcticulate Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm Great blog post! I agree that more broadcasting companies should join. I for one would really like seeing more European companies, especially. Being Swedish myself, I wish SVT (Swedish Television) and SR (Swedish Radio) would join and post about news and events, but even better if YLE, DR and NRK joined, too (unless all/some of them already did) 🙂. I only see random, unofficial bot accounts trying to fill that gap right now.

Nazar Tokar Mar 24, 2024

@Arcticulate does NRK have mastodon account? Another toot above says they aren't here. At least, officially

івась тарасик Mar 20, 2024

#quote | «A lot of Mastodoners also seem to be very tech-savvy (or geeky), and – as an NDR social media manager famously said – "nobody really cares about football"».

no football? i'm in, gimme two!

https://www.ebu.ch/news/2024/03/public-broadcasters-of-europe-lets-all-join-mastodon

Public Broadcasters of Europe, Let's All Join Mastodon!

In this guest post, Alexander Plaum, Innovation Manager at Deutsche Welle (DW), writes about his team's exceptionally positive experience with microblogging in the Fediverse. He also explains why all public broadcasting professionals should try out Mastodon.

Nazar Tokar Mar 20, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm thanks for highlighting this!

Toran Shaw - M7TOR Mar 21, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm

Do you know if there will eventually be a dedicated instance for media companies and journalists?

DW Innovation Mar 21, 2024

@torspedia @lxplm

Good news: They already exist. :)

Two prominent examples:
https://journa.host/directory
https://newsie.social/directory

Journa.host

The server for working journalists and news outlets on Mastodon. Home to active & retired journalists, media scholars, and a variety of news and journalism adjacent professionals. #Newstodon

Mastodon hosted on journa.host

Not Evil Mar 21, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm The page is returning a 404 for me

Nazar Tokar Mar 24, 2024

Here's the correct address

https://www.ebu.ch/news/2024/03/public-broadcasters-of-europe-lets-all-join-mastodon

Public Broadcasters of Europe, Let's All Join Mastodon!

In this guest post, Alexander Plaum, Innovation Manager at Deutsche Welle (DW), writes about his team's exceptionally positive experience with microblogging in the Fediverse. He also explains why all public broadcasting professionals should try out Mastodon.

Grant Mar 21, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm

Oops!

Alex Plaum Mar 21, 2024

@gsymon @dw_innovation

Thanks.

Looks like somebody at EBU HQ changed the URL. :)

I just fixed the link.

Rita ⁂Mar 21, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm Broken link, it seems: “Geneva, we have a problem!”…

Alex Plaum Mar 21, 2024

@titi @dw_innovation It's fixed.

Grant Mar 21, 2024

@dw_innovation @lxplm

" an NDR social media manager famously said – 'nobody really cares about football' "

Football = tribal / right-wing
Mastodon = community / left-wing

In short, it defines humanity.

As long as money doesn't get involved (and many will try) it will remain a community.

@dw_innovation @lxplm

Hey could you tone down the edit frequency? Every edit generates notifications for everyone who boosted the post :)