Gabriel R.
nixCraft 🐧So yes, Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads How to fix it? Switch to Firefox. Not to Edge. Alternatively, if you need Chome for work. Visit chrome://settings/adPrivacy and turn off each setting. Of course get Adbloker too ;)
Pascal Leinert 🌹🌻🗽@nixCraft I thought you can't block this kind of ads or isn't it implemented yet?
Simon Müller 
@pasci_lei @nixCraft he means *after* disabling the options, I believe
Dimitris Nakos, MSc@nixCraft If chrome is needed for some apps like teams, then there's also the chameleon which "changes" the ID of browser to whatever the user wants.
WarmasterPalakChrome is NOT required for teams. Use the Teams app, and any browser can redirect to it. Also, Teams has plug-ins for each browser, but since MS is in bed with Google, they recommend Edge, running on Chromium, or Chrome.
Any site that says they work best on browser X means they've only bothered testing their site on that browser. Shady shit, that.
@WarmasterPalak From firefox just now: https://share.riseup.net/#nsESis7ndF-tZoi2V_fIKA And also: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/microsoft-teams-blog/microsoft-teams-progressive-web-app-now-available-on-linux/ba-p/3669846
So basically RIP teams for linux users. M$ being complete wankers :D
So basically they've kicked out of teams everything that is open and nice :P
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So basically RIP teams for linux users. M$ being complete wankers :D
So basically they've kicked out of teams everything that is open and nice :P
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Melroy van den Berg
The_Moose_Man@melroy @qwc @nixCraft @Vivaldi. https://vivaldi.com/blog/news/alert-no-google-topics-in-vivaldi/ has you covered m8
Sascha Presnac 🙄🤦♂️@nixCraft or use a tracking blocking dns like nextdns or a secure vpn like proton (paid)
Raichu 
Amikke@nixCraft there’s Chromium derivatives that aren’t so messed up, like Vivaldi, Brave or the classic ungoogled Chromium.
Travis@Amikke @nixCraft Brave is pretty messed up though https://www.spacebar.news/p/stop-using-brave-browser
@travis @nixCraft it’s always fun to see these articles reach conspiracy nut levels of grasping at straws. Hey, stop using this browser because one of its investors is a fund operated by a guy who independently helped fund a wrestler’s lawsuit against a company that outed him as gay.
This is no different than right-wing nuts connecting a company through 4 levels of indirection to Jews and declaring it a jewish conspiracy. This level of guilty-by-association bullshit needs to stop, on all sides.
Jolan Blood@Amikke @travis @nixCraft I think it's still interesting that these articles exist. As a Brave user myself, I wasn't aware of all these "take with a pinch of salt" stories, but there are all the sources quoted.
Everyone has their own opinion. But there will always be something negative in every company, there will always be something to say... and so I agree that we need to stop saying "Stop using....." because we're never going to get away with moving platforms & tools for X or Y reasons.
Nathan Borson
Otojon@nixCraft ublock is good
Majid Iqbal@nixCraft Firefox isn't so great for privacy either. That's why Librewolf exists. Personally, I don't like both of them due to the UI and the weird way they render bold text. I want to move away from Edge but not sure where to move to yet
Stephen Gentle@nixCraft I don't know how I'd live without Firefox and uBlock Origin - best combo! I have to make do with 1Blocker for Safari on the iPhone, which works fairly well but not as well as UBO.
Siddhesh Gunjal@nixCraft or just use brave
Velveteen@Velveteen @nixCraft no one told you to use the crypto shit. You can just disable all all of it, just like I did. If that's set aside, you will see that brave has very good resistance against tracker blocking and fingerprinting.
@Velveteen @nixCraft Firefox of other browsers mainly lack proper support for latest technologies as follows:
1. WebVR, WebAR WebApps lag a lot on firefox mobile
2. Firefox does not support WebXR API
3. VR mode on android which uses google VR services does not work on firefox
4. Flutter WebApps are laggy as hell on firefox
5. Tensorflow.js for ML lags alot in firefox
All of the above are also not promised to work in all chromium based browsers. In brave everything works.
Florian Xaver
Wuzzy@nixCraft If you need #Chrome but without the tracking, use ungoogled-chromium.
Unfortunately, #Firefox tracks you by default, including #Google tracking. While Firefox is less bad than Chrome, it's sadly not ideal. Thankfully, this can be mitigated (see https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/firefox).
#IceCat is also an option. This is a Firefox fork without #tracking.
@Wuzzy @nixCraft Ungoogled Chromium introduces attack surface and *weakens* privacy in some crucial areas, like WebRTC, where proxying is entirely disabled so your IP will always be visible to WebRTC connections for example.
There's not really much variety in the privacy-focused chromium race, so for now I'd recommend https://librewolf.net any day of the week, even if you need chromium, which usually just means "my website needs to think I use chrome" (use the Chameleon Extension!)
@Rush @nixCraft This almost sounds like a bug to me. Was this reported? But IIRC, WebRTC was never great on the privacy front anyway. But thanks for the warning, I admit I do not have not much experience with Chromium-based browsers.
My point was more about how browsers *deliberately* spy on you. Security vulns are an entire diferent beast.
Librewolf has a "low" spyware rating on Spyware Watchdog: https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/librewolf (but this may be outdated)
Hyde 📷 🖋 
elefant@elefant @nixCraft Your FUD accusation is pretty harsh and it implies malicious intent. I don't see malicious intent tho.
So let's ignore the Google Analytics thing but that doesn't invalidate the other points.
For example, "Safe Browsing" is still there. Firefox just isn't ideal on the privacy front.
There's a reason why there are so many Firefox forks like Librewolf and IceCat these days.
Firefox isn't the worst, but also not the best.
@Wuzzy @nixCraft
It totally depends on your POV whether Safe Browsing is actually pro or against privacy. These forks are usually lagging behind in features, are unfunded and depend on one's guy (or a few) commitment.
In a general sense, Firefox seems to try to find the fine line between security and privacy, that benefits most users and gives you all the tools to set these options to your liking.
And it has done this for the last 25 years (or so). What's not to like?
xrvs@nixCraft i’d recommend ungoogled chromium if you need it
mjc0961@nixCraft If you switch to Firefox, remember to clean it up. Vanilla Firefox doesn't care about or respect your privacy.
Firefox is NOT private. Here's how to fix it. (Firefox Hardening)
Bepely@nixCraft I just gave up. They want to collect my data - so be it. After few years of this approach, nothing really chancged much. Chrome worth it, at least now.
And if you have multiple profiles in Chrome, e.g. Work, Home, School, remember to do it on each profile, on all your devices. But really, just switch to Firefox, or at least Safari.
Jerry Mouse@gr Safari is no diff from chrome
Peter G@nixCraft also Cromium is an alternative if you need Chrome for a website.
@jerry thanks for that. I was under impression that all of the data tracking code is compiled into Chrome upstream of the chromium base. Wasn't aware that ungoogled chromium exists.
adBlocker and a blacklist app. I recommend noScript. You have to authorize every individual domain, so you start out protected. You do, however, destroy the functionality of most sites until you authorize each domain, but if you turn them on one by one and reload, you'll quickly see which ones belong to advertisers. Pretty easy to reblock them, too.
DuskCS@nixCraft even Firefox uses some of your data like telemetry and such but if you want NO TRACE of data being used, you can use the Firefox fork LibreWolf, or many of the other forms that may have certain features or functionality to Firefox.
@duskcs @nixCraft You need to install FireFox-ESR and then generate your own Firefox config script before your done. but then you can make it just as privacy oriented as the Tor’s clone.
On the other hand, you can just install the Tor Browser, it works on the scary net as well on the clean(tor) network
Thomas Lee (he/him)@nixCraft
Or Vivaldi! Its better than Firefox.
Or Vivaldi! Its better than Firefox.
rexi
GitHub - EFForg/privacybadger: Privacy Badger is a browser extension that automatically learns to block invisible trackers.
Privacy Badger is a browser extension that automatically learns to block invisible trackers. - GitHub - EFForg/privacybadger: Privacy Badger is a browser extension that automatically learns to bloc...
