Fool Me Twice We Don't Get Fooled Again: There's a crucial difference between federatable and federated.
https://doctorow.medium.com/fool-me-twice-we-dont-get-fooled-again-20074e311f1f
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@pluralistic After spending several months on Bluesky and working with the protocol (on building a PHP library for it), I realized it’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
Even if/when they do federate, the intent appears to be for large companies to run major portions of the protocol.
And Bluesky just converted to a C corp to take on venture capital.
I deactivated my account last week because I won’t get fooled again.
(I now have that song by The Who stuck in my head.)
@ramsey @jef @pluralistic The only thing I've been able to discern is that Public Benefit corporations can explicitly have a mission and be profit-driven at the same time.
Probably the way this shakes out is that shareholders can't successfully sue for lack of value maximization when the company decides to do something good at the expense of optimal future profits.
I don't think there's anything that *requires* the corporation to follow that mission, just that it's *allowed* to. :-/
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bluesky is twitter, run by the guy who owned twitter before Elon. Nothing more, nothing less
One might say, "Nothing to see here folks, run along home now.", or perhaps, that statement is only true because it has been blatantly obvious and in the face of all of us directly involved since the very beginning.
I urge everyone to read this thread.
I've also posted it to the official #bsky-fediverse (Matrix & Discord) as well as any discussions in the #Fediverse_City room at https://matrix.to/#/#fediverse-city:matrix.org
There's no excuse for drinking that Kool-aid.
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@alper
That strongly depends on the subgroup you want to see
in the recent weeks, Furries have 98% abandoned Fediverse, the only thing i read everywhere is
"has anyone a Blusky invite" or "i am now on Bluesky" "Fediverse is dead"
It hurts
@Laberpferd My feeds don't seem much less empty than they were. Some people have disappeared, but at the same time, others have joined. The best we thing we can do is keep using it, keep the community vibrant, and keep gently inviting people.
@mathias @alper @ramsey @pluralistic
i do my best to keep life going here
But i can also say that i am following more than 1000 dead accounts, and almost anyone i would love to communicate has either left here or never wanted to be here
@[email protected] Admittedly, I’m doing some reading-between-the-lines, but IMO, it’s implied: “The federation architecture allows anyone to host a BGS, though it’s a fairly resource-demanding service. In all likelihood, there may be a few large full-network providers, and then a long tail of partial-network providers. Small bespoke BGSs could also service tightly or well-defined slices of the network, like a specific new application or a small community.” https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/5-5-2023-federation-architecture
@ramsey @pluralistic ah! Sorry I missed that.
Must admit I'm pretty taken with the marketplace of algorithms idea ... but I see what you mean about the BGSes.
@jwcph @ramsey @pluralistic maybe. But there's a lot of potential in new timeline algorithms, I think - I'm excited about the idea of just letting devs try out new ideas here.
Basically I'm wondering if we can surface good stuff without the "optimizing for car crashes" aspect of current social media algorithms.
@lukasb @ramsey @pluralistic I don't agree. There will be no possible way for us, the users, to have any kind of transparency into how any given algo works. Even in the best case scenario - say, one where you can fine-tune the algo to your preferences somehow - you still have no idea in hell how it achieves the feed you're looking at.
For all you can possibly know, any algo you choose may be laden with all sorts of icky or dangerous biases & there's no way for you to know.
@raccoon called this several months ago, hat's off to him.
Good work, Ben, thank you. I was wondering about Bluesky, even started the process of opening account, then few months ago my cat whiskers felt something untoward, and I got off the idea. Nothing concrete, just a hunch. Your post confirms it.
@ramsey @pluralistic I'm honestly waiting for half the features to get paywalled.
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"Want your reply at the top? $5"
"Want to ensure your celebrity crush sees your post? $150"
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