@CStamp

#History #US #Europe
*On #Racism*

Very true.
Also, as #MatthewCooke in his #podcast series #AmericanOriginStories puts it,πŸ‘‰"the #US are a #SlaverNation." πŸ‘ˆAll its institutions were built defending the landed gentry. (I learned a lot of new details of US history from it.)

https://i.sonnet.fm/qLiqAW2LBYG87ay57

#Europe, on the other hand, did have a history of #slavery and #racism (e.g. against #Jews and #Muslims), but its institutions...
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@CStamp @victoriadecapua

#History
On #Racism

...did not develop to enshrine these concepts, as they were the result of historical struggles.

What is more, until the invention of the #NationState, arguable as conceived in the #TreatyOfWestphalia of 1648 (ending the #ThirtyYearsWar in #Europe), but not too prominent until the 19th century, it was common practice to redistribute fiefdoms through marriages and the like according to...

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On #Rascism

...political alliances. πŸ‘‰Languages and cultures, and thus racism, in #Europe did not play the prominent role it played in the #US.πŸ‘ˆ E.g. "At the time of the 1789 #FrenchRevolution, only half of the #French people spoke some French, and 12–13% spoke the version of it that was to be found in literature and in educational facilities, according to #Hobsbawm.

During the #Italian unification, the..."

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On #Racism

"...number of people speaking the Italian language was even lower."

πŸ‘‰#Racism is chiefly seen as being touted in 20th century #Fascism, with its roots in 19th century #Imperialism and #Colonialism.πŸ‘ˆ

πŸ‘‰The #Feudalism of the #MiddleAges was no #Slavery and most #WesternEuropean nations were #Colonizers and not #Colonies, like all of the #Americas.πŸ‘ˆ

Therefore the...

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...dominating perspectives can never be the same, nor should they, in a "global market place of ideas".

I learned this month that the, in most countries in continental #Europe completely innocuous term #Eskimo is strongly #racist for the #Inuits. A #FirstNation member would hardly ever call itself a #NativeAmerican, as in the #US, though the latter is not offensive, just...

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...inappropriate for #Canada, where the term is #FirstNations.

So, in conclusion, it is hardly possible to express things in a completely inoffensive way for everyone.
That said, while I am quite willing to learn and try to avoid terms considered #racist in a certain group, this willingness ends where such requests collide with my understanding of language and/or is made in a rude or...

@HistoPol @CStamp @victoriadecapua @MelodyCooper @BlackAzizAnansi You followed the wrong person here and just showed exactly who you are with this post.

Your understanding of language is meaningless in the context of this discussion and never grants you, or anyone, the right, or a valid reason, to use language that communities tell you is offensive, demeaning, or otherwise negative and inherently violent.

Times change and people must, also.

Be a better person; be willing to learn and improve.

@ricardoharvin @CStamp

You obviously did not read my thread, nor my post, or did not understand it.

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@HistoPol @CStamp @victoriadecapua @MelodyCooper @BlackAzizAnansi I understood you think your understanding of language trumps a community's request for different terminology as long as you don't consider it to be openly or directly bigoted speech.

I'm saying that's not only not good enough, but not good at all.

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E.g. "community's request"...I covered that with the "Eskimo" and "FirstAmerican" vs. "NativeAmerican" examples.

Also, IDK if you speak other languages fluently. E.g. in #Spanish, there are many words that are part of normal language in one country but which are deeply offensive or of sexual nature in another.
You simply cannot force a native speaker who is addressing an international audience..

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...to change his/her/their (native-language) wording just to suit a small number of natives from another country where this might be offensive.

(However, I do not include not innocuous terms in this that stem from past colonial history, etc.)

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