Google used to take pride in minimizing time we spent there, guiding us to relevant pages as quickly as possible. Over time, they tried to answer everything themselves: longer snippets, inline FAQs, search results full of knowledge panels.
Today's Bard announcement feels like their natural evolution: extracting all value out of the internet for themselves, burying pages at the bottom of each GPT-generated essay like footnotes. https://blog.google/technology/ai/bard-google-ai-search-updates/
Of course, they frame it as "making it easier for people to get to the heart of what they’re looking for and get things done." But how long will publishers, blogs, online communities, and other creators tolerate generating free content to feed their machine, while getting little to nothing in return?
It's only a one line change:
<meta name="googlebot" content="noindex">
@stonebear @andybaio I mean... thatś why this is a bit of an overblown panic.
Google has been processing and summarizing search results for ages. To the point where all of this has already been litigated in court (although it'll likely be again).
They will even read you back search results through Assistant already. Slapping LaMDA on top of it at this point is at best a slight qualitative improvement.
@stonebear @andybaio To be clear, people interpret the Bing and Google moves as being what they see in the open ChatGPT demo.
It most likely is not gonna be that. ChatGPT is only responding based on its weights. Presumably these search engine apps will simply perform a search, then read you the results of the search with sourcing and a follow up list of links.
There are already examples of this out there. The biggest problem isn't so much accuracy as bad searching practices.
@andybaio The only Code Red to google is when there's not an Ad stream in the middle of whatever is trending at the moment.
None of that has to do with whether the product is ultimately successful, or even if it's what people wanted.
@andybaio I personally want Google to crash and burn as a company so hard and with such a deep crater left behind that nobody tries to be Google again.
So I'm kinda all for them torching their own core product in a desperate attempt to stay relevant.
I actually don't. I want them to split up into different companies that can focus on their individual core products.
@SaftyKuma @andybaio Gmail, Google Search, Google Maps, Android, and Chrome are all basically industry-worst options that people are stuck with because they all tie together.
Let. It. All. Collapse.
Well, yes, a lot suck. But it's easy to have sucky "me too" products you're not motivated to fix when you're subsidized by near-monopoly power.
Hence breaking the company up (same should happen with Microsoft). These companies are too big and feel they can shove whatever shit they want down people's throats because we're forced to use their "core" products.
@andybaio Numerous people have already documented #ChatGPT #GPT3 doing #plagiarism and #copyright violations - is #google really getting around that with #Bard?
It takes more than just switching out words to avoid plagiarism and IP theft. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/copyright-infringement-danger-chatgpt-best-practices-spradley/
Introduction Welcome to our exploration of ChatGPT and copyright infringement. In this blog, we will delve into the inner workings of ChatGPT, a language model developed by OpenAI that has the ability to generate human-like text and conversations.
As further proof that the Writers are incompetent, lazy asses, the actual #singularity we're gonna get is #bard "learning" from text generated by #chatgpt from pages created using bard, etc.
@andybaio Or even do something to get XLoader out of its ads. This problem is getting worse and worse.
What I find interesting is that there is already petabytes of nonsense on the World Wide Web. Nobody is suggesting that we shut down the Internet.
@andybaio Google’s fear should be their own demonstrated inability to deal with SEO spam, not chat AI systems. Page 1 through ♾️ of Google have had terrible results for years. Every site is either an Amazon referrer or a content farm showing DoubleClick ads. Google’s product is bad, but nobody else has a better one yet.
(Bing is no better; their product vision appears to be “do whatever Google just did”)
@andybaio their core product is a monopoly on online advertising and the AI generators don’t threaten that.
In fact if folks have to bounce around more of the internet to find a thing that’s more ads that Google gets to show them.
@andybaio I agree with that ideal, but I don't think that is what users want. Too many webpages are filled with ads and other annoyances. That's why everyone is pushing towards getting the answer.
Take andisearch.com seems like pure plagiarism (especially of news sites).
@andybaio Why are you so confident they are NOT building those detectors?
Or that they aren't watermarking their BS generators so that their core product can recognize it?
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