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Micah LeeOh hell yeah. @mozilla is launching a Mastodon instance in early 2023! I’m very excited for this. Mozilla is really good at what they do. Firefox has over 200M monthly active users, and with any luck they’ll build better support for the fediverse into Firefox itself. Mastodon will greatly benefit from easy to use professionally run instances that can handle massive scaling https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-launch-fediverse-instance-social-media-alternative/
Carrie@micahflee @mozilla It’s a big deal!
It's Just Jenn 🏳️⚧️@micahflee @mozilla I've been a Firefox user for as long as I can remember. This may be really beneficial to both entities!
A T Beaune 唐博訥This would be a welcome move! #Vivaldi does this with its #VivaldiSocial interface, built into the browser. Options like this greatly improve ease of use for new #Mastodon arrivals.
GaryRLundbergWouldn’t it be interesting if Apple launched an instance also. @icloud.social?
Mazal 
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GrutjesYes, and maybe the owner of Tesla could start a Mastodon clone as well, right?
Isn't the Fediverse supposed to be an alternative for surveillance capitalism?
chaos 🏳️🌈@Grutjes @GaryRLundberg this is what I’m thinking as I scroll the comments. What the fuck? Brands are the opposite of what the fediverse is built for.
I’m not sure. Aren’t news organizations and governments allowed, already active? Businesses also?
I feel open source compliance, no algorithms to force feed toots, and no advertising inserted into feeds are the key.
There are already paid hosting services for personal and business instances. Is that not commercializing the #fediverse?
Right now I think the more fully compliant instances there are makes a better Federation.
@GaryRLundberg @Grutjes If companies have instances federated with other instances… their brands’ toots WOULD show up on fedi timeline. Why do brands want a presence on mastodon if not for promotion and advertisement?
Brands need to be where the people are. You’re right, the brand’s employees are all essentially working for and promoting their products.
I just think as Web 3.0 takes the federate approach mainstream, brands will be there. The key is to keep the power, and data, securely with the people. And their instance.
I also think many internet hosting/URL companies will soon be offering personal instances. As demand for @joinmastodon grows.
Sebastiaan Veld@Grutjes @GaryRLundberg would be easier to just add the protocol to Twitter and join that way
You're kind of missing the point a little bit
Anna Christina 
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@micahflee @mozilla
Don't they have their own social network in iTunes, "Ping" or sth. like that? ;-)
@micahflee @mozilla
Don't they have their own social network in iTunes, "Ping" or sth. like that? ;-)
They certainly used to. Don’t know it’s still live or not. Will have to check.
sn 🐦⬛@GaryRLundberg Sounds enticing, however it could grow to be a huge instance and thus bad for decentralization. Isn't it great that so far all instances are limited in size?
Yes. I agree. Seems to make the most sense that businesses set-up instances for employees. Engage in the #fediverse at the person to person level.
Another scenario: Someday soon many people will have a personal Mastodon account hosted by a provider. Like getting personal email from GoDaddy or similar. I think this is more likely than companies creating public instances.
Robert M@micahflee @mozilla Firefox memory usage on Linux makes me crazy. In general I like it like more than Chrome but I end up using Chrome more because of this. I hate having to kill and restart Firefox just to free up memory. Wish there was just a simple way to force Firefox to limit itself to 4 GB for example.
SamuelJohnson@rob11563 @micahflee @mozilla Try Brave. It's my preferred browser, though I keep the others around for specific things. Your Chrome plugins work with it.
penguin@climatepenguin @rob11563 @micahflee @mozilla I do ofc, but have no objection to experiments in micropayments for content.
Lê Fê is back@rob11563 @micahflee @mozilla same here, used it for decades, but in the last two years I am also getting these memory issues too. On #brave currently.
EDM Firefox@rob11563 @micahflee @mozilla I use Firefox on Fedora and don't seem to have performance issues with it...
@micahflee @mozilla Just made my first edit on Mastodon. I left off an s at the end of word. 🙂
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Could it be the extensions you may be running? I run Firefox on Linux on the daily with multiple tabs opened. It uses about the same amount of memory as Brave (a Chromium-based browser) and Chrome.
Consider running Firefox without extensions & see if it fixes the issue you're facing?
Could it be the extensions you may be running? I run Firefox on Linux on the daily with multiple tabs opened. It uses about the same amount of memory as Brave (a Chromium-based browser) and Chrome.
Consider running Firefox without extensions & see if it fixes the issue you're facing?
Krazy Thee Alaskan@micahflee @mozilla saw this earlier today. Lots of major brands/sources are moving here in quick time. Pretty kickass.
Can we get our sports teams, too please. #NHL #HockeyDon
Can we get our sports teams, too please. #NHL #HockeyDon
Martin Vermeer FCD@KrazyTheeAlaskan @micahflee @mozilla This could be part of the answer to the claim I saw a few days ago, that a sudden collapse of Twitter could not be absorbed by the Mastodon ecosystem. Ye of small faith...
#Mastodon #growth #ElonDämmerung #TwitterMigration #MastodonMigration
#Mastodon #growth #ElonDämmerung #TwitterMigration #MastodonMigration
Sharkie@micahflee @mozilla Keep in mind that not all instance owners are amateurs, and be wary of the movement of heavyweights, even if they're historically Good Actors.
Also, do not forget the scripture:
12:10 And the beast shall come forth surrounded by a roiling cloud of vengeance. The house of the unbelievers shall be razed and they shall be scorched to the earth. Their tags shall blink until the end of days.
Michael Downey 🧢
Stefan Ferreira 🏳️🌈@micahflee @mozilla this is excellent news!
CJ the Awkward Lefty@micahflee @mozilla I love Firefox, but I'm not particularly sanguine about the potential corporatization of Mastodon. In any case, I love my little French anarcho-feminist instance.
flavordave@micahflee @mozilla My son is named Micah.
Michael Hansen 🛶@micahflee @mozilla exciting news indeed, slightly disappointed about the footer:
Andrew Clement@anclement @micahflee @mozilla yeah, I know, just the first time that I found it, well funny, to see the familiar bird at the end of a blog. I’m hoping we will gradually start seeing links to Mastodon.
Tyler Lucas 
@micahflee @mozilla this is a really great fit for Mozilla. Happy to hear that they’re getting into it
exponentialverteilt@micahflee @mozilla In general, I like to hear that. But the last federation project of Mozilla is still lacking proper internet connection. They moved to Matrix, two years ago. Their home server (mozilla.modular.im) doesn't have #IPv6 access, so it's not possible to connect to my self-hosted home server and access my matrix bridges. Hope that's different with their Mastodon instance.
So, is this good news, or is this the partner of Meta that's coming to check if there's money to be made?
Isn't the strength of mastodon the absence of big players?
PatrickFromFW@Grutjes @micahflee @mozilla but doesn’t growth make interest from big players inevitable? It seems like Mastodon is well designed to keep them from doing things many users don’t like and getting away with it like they do on some platforms. They’ll find themselves widely blocked.
@PatrickFromFW @micahflee @mozilla
I would hope so, but look around, check the reactions here. I see most people cheering. Some of them say Apple should start an instance too. My reaction:
"Sure! And maybe the owner of Tesla could start a Mastodon clone as well, right?"
Mastodon might be well designed, but the capitalist mindset is deeply embedded in people. We need more than technical solutions, we need a decolonisation process of sorts.
Bogie B. 🇨🇦 🇺🇸
Fezzi Fezzino 🧊 🆒️@micahflee @mozilla one can just hope that ppl support such open source projects with donations... as usually most of the ppl like to use the free stuff but don't support it!
bdbch@micahflee @mozilla That is a great thing! Love that more and more communities will spring up on here.
What I can say by now:
1. Mastodon is way friendlier, less toxic
2. Mastodon offers a wide variety of servers to pick from, so great if I want to have a nice local community
3. I get way more activity on my toots here compared to the birdsite even though there are less people here. sure it's from the same people, but it's way more welcoming than on Twitter.
@dome Mastodon is less toxic then Twitter only because it still has low userbase. Just wait for it. Lol
australia.etc@mozilla @micahflee This is exciting!!
Brian Grinter@micahflee @mozilla just gotta hope some tech giant doesn’t have the same idea but to “Embrace, extend, extinguish”…
infernal_barry@infernal_barry @micahflee @mozilla
Microsoft were the champions of EEE - from browser extension (ActiveX - *shudder*) through a range of others. Someone will try - hopefully they will fail
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish
Microsoft were the champions of EEE - from browser extension (ActiveX - *shudder*) through a range of others. Someone will try - hopefully they will fail
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish
@bgrinter @micahflee @mozilla I think if they start following that strategy then other instances will simply block them. They'll isolate themselves into their own bubble.
but daaaamn you now gave me flashbacks from the start of my career as a web dev working on cross browser compatibility. I didn't have it thaaaaat bad but I did have to support ie 6 :'(
@infernal_barry @micahflee @mozilla yeah, hopefully lots of people have caught on to the bad old ways.
I remember the “works best on IE6”…
Same reason I still use Safari - don’t want to repeat the mistakes of the past with one dominant browser
Actually safari has become the new ie6 for us. Not nearly as bad but they don't seem to follow the set standards as closely as the other browsers. Although nowadays there are so many tools that help with this sort of thing and browser companies are a really trying to work together somewhat in terms of implementing the same standards
Wow the works best on ie6 was so damn sneaky!!!!
@infernal_barry @micahflee @mozilla
It's been so long I got the wording wrong - "Best Viewed with..."
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Olav@micahflee @mozilla it'll be a Federated instance but not necessarily (probably not) Mastodon. It's important to maintain that distinction
But yes, accessibility to a Federated instance for the average web denizen will be a huge things
ro@olavf @micahflee @mozilla sounds like they explicitly chose mastodon to start with, what makes you think otherwise?
"While we’re starting this exploration on Mastodon — as a mature, stable project, it’s an ideal first step into the Fediverse <...>"
@ro @ro <...> we believe the potential of the Fediverse is bigger and broader than Mastodon alone.
Anyway that just likely means they're going to fork the Mastodon code base, at which point it's no longer Mastodon. This is common practice for open-source.
FWIW counter/social and truth/social are also Mastodon forks, they're just not Federated.
@olavf i doubt mozilla would maintain a mastodon fork. there's no reason to add more fragmentation to an already not-so-healthy network. if they make some useful changes, why not upstream them?
that said, modern day mozilla does make a lot of weird decisions, so we'll see
@ro the only fragmentation is there a handful of protocols and some software stacks generally don't support the other protocols. But, if you combine all the other protocols together, ActivityPub has more users by over an order of magnitude.
Different s/w stacks that can talk to each other is a feature, not a bug. In fact, it's the entire point. Forking to add features outside the Mastodon base is one way to do that while maintaining most of the core code