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Elisabeth AndersonAnother #MastodonTip I've learned is that if you're posting a long thread then make the first one public (with the 🌍Public: Post to public timelines) but make the rest of them unlisted (with the 🔓Unlisted: Do not show in public timelines) which means the replies don't appear on people's timelines but the first post does! ☺️
However if you're replying to an unlisted post and you *do* want your reply to appear on the public timeline then you can set it back to 🌍 Public.
Tim Chambers@velobetty That’s a cool #Feditip
Kev@tchambers @velobetty cool tip: level 7
MartinDotNet@velobetty That should be the default.
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@velobetty @Martindotnet yepp. Normal users will never understand/remember this. App programmers should.
Cashie@velobetty thank you for this.
Sandeha Lynch@velobetty Bookmarked for its clarity. Ta.
Stevi@sandehalynch @velobetty how do I bookmark? ☺️
@sandehalynch @velobetty thanks 👍, I can't see that in the app but can if I connect using the browser......hmmmm very strange
@steviweavi @velobetty I guess it's set pretty clear on Win/Chrome, but apps vary - dunno !
@sandehalynch @velobetty yes you're probably right. When browsing with Chrome on your phone, some parts are missing unless you've selected 'Desktop mode'
At least I know now, thanks again.
At least I know now, thanks again.
Bill Ricker@steviweavi @sandehalynch @velobetty the alternative apps get better reviews than the official, eponymous app on both iOS & Android.
E.g. Tusky has swallowtail ribbon icon.
E.g. Tusky has swallowtail ribbon icon.
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Chris Gerhard 
@velobetty and everyone can still see the replies via the first post? I assume yes but have never seen this
@chrisgerhard Yes they can still see them from the original toot although they wouldn't see, like, 2/3 in the public timeline but they would see 1/3.
artsyhonker@velobetty @chrisgerhard That's not quite how it works!
Unlisted toots do not appear in the local timeline on your instance, or the federated timeline. But they do appear in the timeline of people who follow you.
@artsyhonker @velobetty the app I have offers 3 options
1) public
2)followers only
3)only people mentioned
Which seems clear. Its a pity there is not an option that does what @velobetty described
@chrisgerhard @artsyhonker Ah, I'm using Tusky which supports those options. The web UI does too.
@velobetty @artsyhonker oh yes. Tusky has another option. Unlisted, which this reply is.
@chrisgerhard @velobetty Yes, but unlisted replies *still show in the home timeline of people who follow you*. They don't show in the local instance timeline or the federated timeline.
@chrisgerhard @velobetty I just had this conversation the other day because someone I follow did a long thread of covid stats with no CWs; she thought that because it was unlisted, followers would only see the first toot. That is not what happened.
Unlisted toots still show in the home timeline of people who follow you.
@artsyhonker @chrisgerhard Yes, unlisted doesn't replace CWs!
If you CW the first then the rest *should* have the same CW though.
@velobetty @chrisgerhard Yes, you can change it (as I sometimes do because I am very tangent-y), but replies automatically inherit the CW of the toot they are replying to.
Dave Warnock@artsyhonker @velobetty @chrisgerhard there are times when I'd like to be able to add a cw before boosting a post. The only option seems to be to add a reply with cw which I find a bit clunky (both to do and to read).
@Dave42W @velobetty @chrisgerhard Yeah, this is just clunky. The other option is a new toot with a CW, with a link to the un-CWd toot inside it.
I generally just don't boost stuff if I think it really needs a CW and doesn't have one.
@artsyhonker @chrisgerhard Yes, I think that's a good thing.
James @ Temples of Syrinx 💠
@artsyhonker @chrisgerhard The first post will show up everywhere and when you click on it it will show the unlisted posts too.
Ivor Hewitt@velobetty there's definitely room for some interface improvements over time. Tried 'live' posting updates for an event yesterday but just couldn't (with any app). It was unusable without a signal (there were two locations I could get coverage) since I couldn't just queue up threads/media or a series of posts.
I expect it will improve and/or other utilities and techniques will appear for 'live events' over time. Will be interesting to see how it gets used for the next "big event"
I expect it will improve and/or other utilities and techniques will appear for 'live events' over time. Will be interesting to see how it gets used for the next "big event"
Kuntie Plopkins@velobetty was about to suggest this
En_kay8@velobetty good idea 👍🏼
@velobetty oh fuck (excuse me) but this is brilliant
Hugh Goggins@velobetty that's really cool. Didn't know you could do that
Elizabeth (Betsy) Marro@velobetty thank you but I'm not sure I understand. What is the advantage of this? I want to get it right
It should keep the thread together as a thread, with all replies going to the first post and not interupting the flow in the middle.
(Twitter had a built-in feature to do that automatically, available to the creator of the thread only - If I got this right😁.)
Mel@velobetty Thank you, I didn't know about this! Bookmarked to remind me.
Ash HobbsI agree. This helps to unclutter the timeline (TL).
I would also suggest that only the original post (OP) needs a content warning (CW), and there's no need to put a CW on subsequent posts since they wouldn't show up in the public TL.
Hmmm. Although, a subsequent post can be boosted. Does that put it on the public TL?
@ashhobbit I think subsequent posts has the CW automatically in some clients but I think you can remove it. I'm not sure.
Tim@velobetty wondering how to do that with the app... Is the shown menu the onei want to use?? (Public, only followers, only mentioned)
@dr_rugby oh, I'm not sure. 🤔
John K@velobetty
One thing I'm not entirely clear about is:
If I reply to an unlisted post, will my reply automatically also be unlisted or would I still need to unlist it on my end?
One thing I'm not entirely clear about is:
If I reply to an unlisted post, will my reply automatically also be unlisted or would I still need to unlist it on my end?
@snork303 that's a good question!
Elisabeth M@velobetty Back when I was on scholar.social they recommended doing either this, or putting the thread inside a content wrapper labeled "thread." Both good ideas!
Allyson Kapin@independentpen @velobetty by content wrapper do you mean just stating “thread”?
@Womenwhotech @velobetty Oh no, I mean the CW. Sometimes called content warning, sometimes called content wrapper. Different instances use it in different ways, hence the different names (I am guessing)
Steve Lionel@velobetty I did this yesterday, took me a couple of false starts before I got it right. One key is to reply to your earlier reply. It also took a while for me to understand how to do a content warning, the docs leave a lot out. #MastodonTip
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@velobetty
Why make threads at all? This is not birdnet and you can post very long posts. Threading is just annoying
Why make threads at all? This is not birdnet and you can post very long posts. Threading is just annoying
@disconnected There's a reply button so it's intended that you reply to things and it's ok to reply to your own things. It's ok.
@velobetty
As long as it is not just a long thread of small posts where youre replying to yourself as seen on twitter (due to the limitations on that platform) .
As long as it is not just a long thread of small posts where youre replying to yourself as seen on twitter (due to the limitations on that platform) .
@disconnected Sometimes the posts span more that one message and that's ok. But if they're all public then you'll see all of them which isn't great. Unlisting the replies means they're only visible to those who are interested and click on the first one.
taafy@velobetty oh that’s what the other person was trying to say. Understand it now 👍
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@Diggler67
For those using Android devices, the Fedilab app has a setting that automatically sends replies as Unlisted, but New posts can still default to Public. Every other app I tried (as well as the Mastodon browser settings) only had one overall default setting that applied to all posts (including replies), e.g., either everything public or everything unlisted.
@Diggler67
For those using Android devices, the Fedilab app has a setting that automatically sends replies as Unlisted, but New posts can still default to Public. Every other app I tried (as well as the Mastodon browser settings) only had one overall default setting that applied to all posts (including replies), e.g., either everything public or everything unlisted.
Amanda@velobetty I don’t have an unlisted option ?