PSA:

There's Politics happening a few places around the world right now.

Please, /please/, place all political posts behind a content warning. It's actually in our Code of Conduct as a strong suggestion, but if we see anyone posting heavy political content frequently and without a CW, we will 'limit' the account (at the very least) so that the post don't show up on the public timeline.

Be considerate of the mental health of your online neighbours.

If you think it's wise/smart/cool/edgy to reply to this with 'all art is political', entirely refusing to recognise the point and spirit in which this post was made, I'll remove your ability to see all of the cute, astonishing, inspiring, whimsical, beautiful 'political' art from here.

@Curator But what is "political" in the spirit, this post was made? Portraits of politicians? Caricature of politicians? Editorial Cartoons? Bold statements like in some print I saw on Insta with the text "women just want to have fun(damental rights)?"
A reminder to vote?

Who am I to judge, if something is hurting the mental health of my online naighbours? Should all the art disappear behind CWs?

@MartinLeurs
"Who am I to judge, if something is hurting the mental health of my online neighbours?"

Exactly this. You're not, so if you want to be safe and not judge people on the things that upset them, you put everything connected to politics behind a political content warning.

@Curator That sounds like a good solution at first, but in the long run it would mean that there would be a warning on every picture. Food, politics, animals, insects, body, beauty, illness, death, family, violence, birth, baby, nudity, ...
And you would never know whether behind "violence" there is a huge slaughter or an image that has only remotely to do with violence.
Consequently, the ALT text would have to be displayed first and then everyone could make a conscious decision based on that.

@MartinLeurs

"Food, politics, animals, insects, body, beauty, illness, death, family, violence, birth, baby, nudity,"

Extreme, but yep, now you're getting it. Food, politics, insects, nudity, illness, death, violence, are all things that we encourage users to CW.

"And you would never know"

That's why there's a text field to explain why something has a CW.

"Consequently, the ALT text" - no, the alt text is still attached to the image and hidden under the CW. The CW just gets an overview.

@Curator @MartinLeurs what's the problem with food?
@delight_aug a common issue with food is that it can be a really bad trigger for people with eating disorders. Images or mention of food or exercise can cause relapses etc. @Curator @MartinLeurs
@delight_aug I don't know, perhaps someone with an eating disorder. I have seen these CWs on Twitter. And to be clear, I don't jugde someone who gets hurt by seeing food or someone eating, but I don't think, that a CW on every image is a good solition.
@MartinLeurs you got to understand that this instance have a culture where CWs are appreciated, but not forced upon. Some people CW a lot of stuff. Others dont. It is in the end up to your own intuition. But if you dont CW your posts you will get less reblogs and more people will simply just mute you so they dont have to see your posts with no CW on the local tl.
@delight_aug @Curator @MartinLeurs some people have eating disorders or other issues that are food related. We don't force people to view our content, we invite them to decide if they want to engage. Clicking on the eye icon takes seconds, but being traumatised can take days to recover.
@delight_aug @Curator @MartinLeurs Some people have eating disorders, so it's helpful to let them decide if they want to see food. And some people are struggling to feed themselves, so they might not want pictures of a luxury dish.
@delight_aug @MartinLeurs @Curator

seeing pictures of food can be distressing (or even just annoying) for e.g. people who are currently on a diet, fasting, or have eating disorders.
@delight_aug @Curator @MartinLeurs it may have to do with people suffering from food related disorders or some form of food art may be trigger-potential. Its okay to CW food as I'm likely to click on a CW if it is tagged food haha
@MartinLeurs @Curator You are not limited to writing one word (or one line) in the CW field. You can e.g. write "violence: gore and severed limbs"

@Anke @Curator Yeah, or I write: A women gets hit by two men, you see no blood, but tears ...

Then I need a CW for my CW. I totally agree, that there is a place for CWs if you post something extreme, but I don't see a benefit of putting a CW on every image with a detailed description, what to expect.

Every piece of art may hurt somebody for very personal reasons and I think there is no way to prevent this except we don't post anything.

@MartinLeurs You are an eloquent adult, I'm sure you can come up with a balance of descriptive and vague enough to work with a few seconds' thought. If you're nervous, you can lurk a while and look at how other people post and you'll get a feel for it, I'm sure you can do it! :-)
@Curator
@Anke @MartinLeurs We're also patient here with people who are open to learning. If you content warn something (or don't) and someone asks you if you could please content warn it for (subject), it's fine to delete-and-re-draft to include that content warning. :)
@MartinLeurs @Anke @Curator then this isn't the place for you.
@MartinLeurs Either "CW: Domestic Abuse, Emotional Distress" or "CW: Assault, Emotional Distress" would work for what you've described. It's vague enough, but also pretty clear re: the contents. You don't have to go into detail with a content warning--the detail is for your alt text. I hope that helped?
@MartinLeurs if you ever disagree with mastodon.art's policies then there are other servers that are more lax about this stuff. in fact, the instance i'm on is soon gonna allow registrations by invite. but if you want, you can see whether you can get used to the rules there. nothing wrong with having choices
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@MartinLeurs @Curator yes that's exactly how that works. This way people can choose to engage not be forced to.
@MartinLeurs in the context of this post, it was some rando responding with “all art is politicial” as some sort of “gotcha” to a post by @Curator reminding people to CW during times when political events are occuring (like for example the current US mid term elections).

@MartinLeurs @Curator
Content Notes are not meant to hide something. They serve the purpose of allowing people agency in choosing what to see. And anyone can set their client to show all posts regardless of CNs.

And I'd just use some common sense?

A portrait of Cleopatra probably does not need a content note, but one of a current controversial figure do.

Try to do a reasonable effort and make adjustments, when people say they would have liked a CW.

@MartinLeurs and you can always choose to use to provide the information, that something like "girls just wanna have fun(damental rights)" is uplifting, joking or positive; again giving people agency in choosing what they want to see.

@Curator

@Curator Yeesh, sorry some folks are so determined to be right about stuff that they’ve forgotten how to be considerate and respectful about it too.

Expanded info:

Usually when people are talking about politics, no matter how mild, whether it's personal commentary on current events or a link to an article, it's placed behind a content warning that will read something like "USPOL, -" USPOL stands for US politics, and you can use a + or - to show whether the nature of your post is positive or negative.

A lot of people enjoy reading political commentary but won't boost it if it doesn't have a CW. It's not censorship, it's consideration.

@Curator What do you think about more expasive headline-like CWs?

"US Midterms: analysis by Whocares"

"<horrible thing> at <location>"

Etc. ?

@nikodemus Borderline but sometimes there's no avoiding it. You could not specify the 'horrible thing' but rather say 'upsetting content at <location>', for example.

The first example is fine though. It's brief, all the detail is below the fold.

@Curator Thanks for feedback!

(I've been suggesting headline-style to people partially because there seems to be less resistance to it, as they can see the utility of collapsing the feed into headlines even if they don't understand CWs otherwise - yet.)

@nikodemus Hah, yeah, that's good. Ease them into the idea.

@nikodemus @Curator

I like the idea of "headline-style" from the connotation that gives ME as a 60-yr-old-fart. But then, most of the headlines I've read in my lifetime pre-date the concept of clickbait.

[CW]KDO murders Al Gore[/CW]

Composing a headline used to be an artform requiring skill and empathy. The internet ruined that.

@nikodemus I'd still recommend including 'politics' or 'uspol' either as hashtag or word in the post's body as they're words that are more commonly used in people's filters than 'midterms' (which also can have non-political associatios). I'm not sure if including it in the CW is enough; I vaguely recall filters not getting triggered by the text in the actual CW.

(One of the features of the #glitchSoc fork of #Mastodon that I especially enjoy is how I can still have CWs auto-unfold unless they match any of my filters, rather than outright hiding the posts that match these filters. I do also like #Friendica's filter support that can automatically force a CW on incoming posts that feature certain keywords, but as that still can lead to posts sneaking through if it doesn't include any of your trigger words, I still advocate for people to include CWs themselves when posting.)

@Curator

@nikodemus @Curator

"US Pol" + Headline-Style has worked all right for me for several years. "US Pol" is like the designated newspaper section and then whatever's after it is like the headline.
Though sometimes I'll get goofy about it and add something like, "My Weird Brain Is Weirding Again." :P

@Curator Hello - please can you confirm if we use UKPOL for UK politics and please can you explain how to put the content warning in place so that the content can be placed behind? I'm new here.
@snigdha @Curator Yes, you can use UKPOL for UK politics. To add the content warning, you need to press press one of the buttons at the bottom of the box where you're composing a toot. I believe the button is "CW" on the web interface and a speech bubble in Tusky; I don't know what it looks like in other apps. Once you press it, you'll get a "content warning" box above the toot. Put your CW there.
@Curator hanks for the clarification I appreciate learning the ropes
@Curator is this for all of Mastadon, as in less of a rule but more of an app-wide courtesy? or is it specific to certain servers/instances?
It makes sense as a general practice for the sake of courtesy boosting, but I'm new here so still trying to figure out the best way to be a Mastadonian. 😁
@FallonStone @Curator It works across the fediverse as a distinctive kindness. Anyone impatient with the extra click can manage their own settings to reveal all CW posts. It’s a genuine win-win in design.
@FallonStone It's a 'best-practice' across the fediverse as a whole ^.^
@Curator Is there a list of the prefered CWs we can use so as not to step on toes? I mean I get religion and politics being touchy but I don't want my ignorance to be cause for anyone being hurt.
@Curator will do! Thank you for the reminder!
@Curator If someone's account is "limited", will this be visible to the person?
@codecat We'll send a moderation email and DM to anyone whose account gets limited, letting them know why ^.^
@Curator as a person who works in politics, I absolutely love to see this. it’s exhausting to come on social media most of the time. excited to see the difference on mastodon
@Curator @ChrisGrey not to spam you about this but this was literally the first post I just found on my timeline.

@Curator This is such a helpful rule and it has made the experience here so much better for me.

Although I've also had to mute some accounts I follow (on other instances than .art) because they don't follow this to closely ( I don't always have the spoons to remind people).

@Curator what is a CW & how is it done?
@PoeticLicenseDK Click this button then write the content warning (e.g. "UK Politics") in the CW box.

@Curator Thank you.

Where is the Mastadon Code of Ethics?

@PoeticLicenseDK It's different for every instance, but our Code of Conduct for .art is one that's heavily focused on consideration and compassion, and creating safe spaces for our users, and will serve you well generally no matter which instance you're on: https://mastodon.art/about/more#code-of-conduct :)
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@Curator These are reasonable. I'll work on being a good / better citizen here - definitely not perfect. One thing I find difficult is cartoons, especially great political cartoons. Not sure how to properly cite or what is considered fair use - I guess I need to be more careful.
@Curator @PoeticLicenseDK so if I use my phone , and I am posting with CW, where do I find the CW warning? Maybe stupid question, but I can’t seem to find it..😬
@kcsorenby @Curator @PoeticLicenseDK It should be one of the buttons at the bottom when you're composing a toot. It might say CW or could look like a speech bubble with an exclamation mark.
@thurisaz @Curator @PoeticLicenseDK ok.. found the sign with exclamation on.Will try that one. Thanks🙏
@Curator no problem at all, I agree