One important thing my anarchist mentors taught me about smashing The State (TM), is that we mean something very specific by it; what political scientists call the 'monopoly on violence'.

The normalisation of "violence down the hierarchy", as Derrick Jensen put it in Endgame, while pathologising even the most trivial use of force against the hierarchy. Police brutality isn't even news. While throwing a cream pie at a PR hack or CEO is "assault".

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Destabilizer – Monopoly on Violence Review

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It’s hard to believe we’re almost twenty-five years into the thrashaissance that started in the early aughts, when bands like Warbringer, Evile, Bonded by Blood, and Municipal Waste hit the scene to breathe new life into a genre that had gone stale. Tons of new bands have formed over that period in an attempt to ride the wave of the revival, including Danish trio Destabilizer. Whiplashed into form in 2020, and after independently releasing two EPs, Destabilizer partnered with Horror Pain Gore Death Productions to release its debut album, Violence is the Answer, in 2023. Fast forward two years, and Destabilizer, in cooperation with new label Iron Shield Records, is ready to shred an unsuspecting public with its sophomore effort, Monopoly on Violence. So, should you rummage through the closet and dust off those skinny jeans, white high tops, and that favorite patch-covered denim vest? Let’s toss some cheap beers in a cooler, pop the bills of our painter’s caps, and head to the skate park to find out.

Nailing the aesthetic on the wrapper—see the pointy logo and colorful comic-book cover art?—the thrash inside Destabilizer‘s Monopoly on Violence is as straightforward as it gets. Devotees of Bonded by Blood and Pleasures of the Flesh era Exodus will have an excellent idea of what to expect from Destabilizer‘s sound, even though the production here is a bit slicker. Niels Sonne does an admirable job holding down all guitar duties, dropping riffs of shredding speed (“Rampage”) and mid-paced chuggery (“Monopoly on Violence”) with equal skill. In true thrash fashion, Kenneth Terkelsen’s kit work provides enough fabulous disaster to keep things recklessly unhinged without letting them go completely off the rails, while Thomas Haxen’s (Horned Almighty) beer bottle bass work, full of effervescent bubbles and plops that lay nicely in Quentin Nicollet’s mix, rounds out Destabilizer‘s rhythm section.

With all this stock-in-trade musicality, the vocal performances stand out most on Monopoly on Violence. A shared responsibility between Haxen and Terkelsen—the former taking the lead and the latter taking backup—the two create a thrashnicolor dream coat of vocal variability. Mainly miming the quirky deliveries of Vio-Lence‘s Sean Killian and Exodus‘ Paul Baloff1, Haxen’s approach adds maniacal energy to tracks like “Easy Prey” and “Pacific Holocaust,” which even contains whiffs of the late, great Dave Brockie2 from Gwar in its nuance. Add to that the occasional death growls and full-on gang shouts that prowl the nooks and crannies of tracks like “Kommander” or “Thrash or Fuck Off,” and Destabilizer manage to inject enough nostalgic mist into the midst of Monopoly on Violence to keep me engaged.

Destabilizer is in no way attempting to reinvent the steel here, however, and while holding a mirror up to the eighties thrash masters of old has always been a hallmark of the retro movement, it often leads to drop-in-the-bucket feelings of “meh.” With its mostly stock riffing and, at times, lyrical juvenility—”Kommander”‘s chuckle-inducing ‘Cuffed up tightly / Disarray I don’t take lightly / Dislocated shoulder / Anarchists getting bolder’ lyric a case in point—Monopoly on Violence doesn’t do anything to escalate itself into “must listen” territory. Combine these points with some atmospheric-via-brie synth intros (“Easy Prey,” “Kommander”), and you’re left with an album that is too explicitly catered, alienating what might have been a more discerning thrash-hungry crowd by producing nothing more than an exercise in thrash flash tattoo art.

Destabilizer doesn’t suck. Monopoly on Violence isn’t terrible. Depending on when you and your buddies start cracking beers, this album will have your sober friends nodding and your drunken buds bobbing. But when the hangover wears off, you’ll be left with some run-of-the-mill thrash metal. There is fun to be had, but it is mostly fleeting, which makes it interesting how difficult waffling over a simple half-point can be when trying to land on an album’s score. I’ve spent more time wrestling that fact with Destabilizer than I should have, but this is where I landed. Agree or disagree, though, it’s my review, so “Thrash or Fuck Off.”

Rating: 2.5/5.0
DR: 9 | Format Reviewed: 320 kbps mp3
Label: Iron Shield Records
Websites: destabilizer.bandcamp.com | facebook.com/destabilizerDK
Releases Worldwide: January 17th, 2025

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Destabilizer - Monopoly on Violence Review | Angry Metal Guy

A review of Monopoly on Violence by Destabilizer, available January 17 worldwide via Iron Shield Records.

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Followup to my pinned Weber / Definition of Government thread:

There's an excellent podcast examination of this here:

https://play.acast.com/s/history-of-ideas/weberonleadership

Some earlier discussion:
https://toot.cat/@dredmorbius/108541676665844169

What the podcast doesn't get into is that the more modern abbreviated "monopoly on violence" form seems to originate with Murray Rothbard and was further popularised by Robert Nozick, both Libertarian philosophers / propagandists.

(I strongly hesitate to apply the word "philosopher" to Rothbard. Nozick is not entirely undeserving.)

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Weber on Leadership

Max Weber’s The Profession and Vocation of Politics (1919) was a lecture that became one of the defining texts of twentieth century political thought. In it, Weber explores the perils and paradoxes of leadership in a modern state. Is it possible to do bad in order to do good? Can violence ever be virtuous? Does political responsibility send politicians mad? David discusses the legacy of Weber’s ideas and asks: who is the true Weberian politician? Free online version of the text: http://fs2.american.edu/dfagel/www/class%20readings/weber/politicsasavocation.pdf Recommended version to purchase: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Weber-Political-Writings-Cambridge-History/dp/0521397197 Going Deeper: Geoffrey Hawthorn on Max Weber for the LRB Joachim Radkau, Max Weber (Polity, 2009) Talking Politics on ‘Politics as a Vocation’ with Jonathan Powell Jan-Werner Müller, Contesting democracy: political ideas in twentieth century Europe (New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 2013) David for the LRB on Weber, Tony Blair, and the politics of good intentions See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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@raucao The typical Libertarian misrepresentation is that the state claims "a monopoly on violence", vaguely handwaving at Weber.

What Max Weber actually wrote was that for an organisation within a territorial area:

A compulsory political organization with continuous operations will be called a "state" insofar as its administrative staff successfully upholds a claim to the monopoly of the legitimate use of physical force

https://archive.org/details/economysociety00webe/page/54/mode/1up?view=theater

Emphasis in the original.

This gives a set of possible circumstances:

  • No territorial control: not a state.
  • No legitimacy to the claim: not a state. (This includes arbitrary, inequitable, and/or nonsystematic use.)
  • No monopoly in legitimate use of force: not a state

Absent a state, by Weber's definition, a geographic region lacks one or more of legitimacy or monopoly. Odds are quite high that violence in some form or manner will exist. What it will lack is accountability, systematic application according to accepted law, and legitimacy.

And if some entity, hierarchical or self-organised, emerges within a region, which can successfully claim a legitimate monopoly to use of force, then whatever it calls itself (corporation, commune, anarcho-syndicate, ...), it is by Weber's definition a state.

Best I can tell, the misrepresentation originates with Murray Rothbard in the early 1960s, though it's possible he picked it up elsewhere. Weber's works were just being translated and published in English at about that time.

That's the critique against the "monopoly of violence" justification.

NAP suffers numerous other defects, of course. Most of which is it's a self-justifying rationalisation and myth with no factual or empirical basis.

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CWs and Weber's Monopoly on Legitimacy

Max Weber defined government, in a much misinterpreted phrase, as "the only human community which lays claim to the monopoly on the legitimated use of physical force". ALL TERMS ARE SIGNIFICANT. Far too many readers focus on "use of physical force", but any playground bully, mean drunk, or capricious idiot can use violence. Government requires legitimacy, typically only bequeathed by the governed, and a monopoly on that legitimacy, meaning no other agent can make a countering claim within a given region.

The definition is reflexive and tautological:

  • An entity with a monopoly on the legitimate use of force is a government or state, regardless of what it calls itself.
  • A region with no monopoly on legitimacy is ungoverned.
  • An entity lacking legitimacy, regardless of what it calls itself, is not a government.

Rather than casting this as a monopoly on force, it's far more useful to consider this a monopoly on legitimacy.

The model is, as all models are, wrong. But it is, as some models are, also useful, in two principle ways.

One is that it provides a useful lens through which to consider government, governance, and polity, stripped of most ideological or structural biases. We can ask how, or whether, a democracy, personality cult, autonomous collective, theocracy, dictatorship, representational republic, monarchy, company town, oligarchy, or other forms have legitimacy and/or monopoly over use of force.

The other is that in being so widely misquoted, misinterpreted, and misrepresented, it is a highly useful bullshit filter for identifying those who are either ignorant of what they speak, or are intentionally attempting to mislead, in discussions of governance.

This includes virtually all Rothbardian/Randian/Misian Libertarians and their "nonaggression principle", notably Charles Koch and Penn Gilette, both of whom explicitly cite this as the foundation of their belief. From a false premise all that follows is false.

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@strypey Again, remove "the state", and I see one of three options:

  • There are multiple entities committing violence with no imposed or collective limits.
  • There is a single entity or structure with a de facto monopoly on violence. (Alternately, a set of rapidly cycling such entities.) Tautologically, that is a state.
  • Unicorns farting rainbows wing through skies raining kittens and there is no violence at all. Good luck with that.
  • Weber's definition isn't a critique of the state. It's an observation that there are three element; legitimacy, molopoly, and use of force, and that when you have all three, what exists is by his definition (which you may or may not accept, and I reserve judgement), a state.

    If you see specific fault with this, please say.

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