Show threadElias ProbstNov 8

@grillchen die "Hydrogen Ladder" von @mliebreich beantwortet diese Frage ziemlich klar:
https://mliebreich.substack.com/p/hydrogen-ladder-version-50

@thomasfricke

#HydrogenLadder #Wasserstoff

Hydrogen Ladder Version 5.0

So my lovelies, here it is: Version 5.0 of the Hydrogen Ladder!

Thoughts of Chairman Michael
Show threadElias ProbstMay 13, 2025

@BNetzA die Frage "Sekt oder Selters" beantwortet seit jeher ziemlich gut die "Hydrogen Ladder" von @mliebreich

@FNB_Gas

#Hydrogen #H2 #HydrogenLadder #Energiewende #MichaelLiebreich

Norbert_R 🦣🐘Feb 18, 2024

#DoktorWhatson

Wo #Wasserstoff die #Zukunft ist (und wo nicht)

Wasserstoff kann Strom speichern, Autos antreiben, unsere Wohnungen heizen, die Industrie #klimaneutral gestalten. Aber wie realistisch ist all das? Das schauen wir uns am Modell der “#HydrogenLadder” an. Wir sprechen über Alternativen, sinnvolle Einsatzgebiete, die Zukunft und die Gegenwart von Wasserstoff.
https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=f-Tmli90nM8

🍉 –Hans Bot– 🙃Oct 29, 2023
Since we should expect clean #hydrogen supply to be limited for many decades, we should focus our efforts and public money on the primary use cases in the #HydrogenLadder.
https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/policy/hydrogen-ladder-seven-h2-applications-relegated-in-updated-use-case-analysis-but-three-promoted/2-1-1540086
Hydrogen Ladder | Seven H2 applications relegated in updated use-case analysis, but three promoted

Creator Michael Liebreich says first update in two years shows how his views on hydrogen have hardened

Hydrogen news and intelligence | Hydrogen Insight
LucomoOct 24, 2023

Extensive article regarding the future use cases for hydrogen with a discussion about Michael Liebreich's updated "Hydrogen Ladder":

"Hydrogen just isn’t the go-to molecule if there are alternatives, and there are almost always alternatives"

https://cleantechnica.com/2023/10/22/whats-new-on-the-rungs-of-liebreichs-hydrogen-ladder/

#Hydrogen #EnergyTransition #HydrogenLadder #Liebreich

What's New On The Rungs Of Liebreich's Hydrogen Ladder? - CleanTechnica

Like the tiny corkscrew, blade, and toothpick on the Swiss Army knife, hydrogen just isn't the go-to molecule if there are alternatives, and there are almost always alternatives. And in hydrogen's case, a lot of the current use cases are going to diminish due to economic and climate imperatives, not grow.

CleanTechnica
gittacaAug 18, 2023

https://www.golem.de/news/verkehrswende-ein-wasserstoffzug-fuer-die-bayrische-und-schwaebische-provinz-2308-176818.html

> #Mireo [soll] das Fahrverhalten eines Oberleitungszuges [haben].

Immer schön wenn #Dieselstinker ersetzt werden, aber warum nicht direkt Oberleitungen bauen und normale E-Loks verwenden?

Kennen #Bayern, #Schwaben & #Siemens die #HydrogenLadder? https://www.liebreich.com/the-clean-hydrogen-ladder-now-updated-to-v4-1/

#Energiewende

Verkehrswende: Ein Wasserstoffzug für die bayrische und schwäbische Provinz - Golem.de

Die Deutsche Bahn will den Wasserstoff für die von Siemens entwickelten Züge vor Ort gewinnen.

Golem.de
Stephen CrownAug 2, 2023

@lyda @bps_artish @Stephencrown @magnatom indeed. Agreed.

Worth referring to @mliebreich #HydrogenLadder for “worthwhile” use cases and where there are alternatives:

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/clean-hydrogen-ladder-v40-michael-liebreich

The Clean Hydrogen Ladder [Now updated to V4.1]

The Clean Hydrogen Ladder is my attempt to put use cases for clean hydrogen into some sort of merit order. OK my lovelies, here by popular demand is Version 4.

Show thread🍉 –Hans Bot– 🙃Jul 24, 2023
@marjolica @mackaj Check a thing called #hydrogenLadder. Current uses of hydrogen are the top priority - principally for fertiliser, oil refining and petrochemicals production - currently accounts for around 2% of global CO2 emissions. Clean hydrogen has to win here, as there is no alternative.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/clean-hydrogen-ladder-v40-michael-liebreich
The Clean Hydrogen Ladder [Now updated to V4.1]

The Clean Hydrogen Ladder is my attempt to put use cases for clean hydrogen into some sort of merit order. OK my lovelies, here by popular demand is Version 4.

🍉 –Hans Bot– 🙃May 14, 2023
@musictraveler @jmtixhon If only the Energy experts would understand that they have their #HydrogenLadder upside down. Oh, and in the magic of a worldwide #Hydrogen infrastructure.
In the real world, an #H2Economy need time to develop, grow and mature. In the meantime #BEV is the best we have – and improving rapidly
euronionApr 13, 2023

@mliebreich Are there plans for an updated #HydrogenLadder ? Last version I could find was v4.1 from 2021. I'd be curious to see how much might have changed.

#EnergyTwitter #EnergyMastodon