Gokul DasMay 27

So much for '#SystemD is not a monolith' guilt tripping. It's modular in theory alone. #Flatpak is the next critical software to introduce a hard dependency on systemd, after #Gnome. Those of us using #Runit, #OpenRC, #GNUShepherd etc are looking at a situation similar to #elogind.

What's common among them? A corporate #OpenSource ecosystem that only they can maintain. Meanwhile, those who question this are treated with contempt!

https://www.osnews.com/story/145071/flatpak-will-depend-on-systemd/

#gentoo #void #guix #alpine #linux

Flatpak will depend on systemd – OSnews

InterestingMooMay 11

Gentoo elogin update seems to be breaking KDE login (or sddm login). Drops to a flashing unresponsive screen. Happy to be able to restore with timeshift, but had to block (mask) elogind updates for now. I was only upgrading 2 packages, that and kernel 7.0.6, and its not the kernel.

#gentoo #Linux #elogind

Show threadmradcliffeMay 8

Solving the mystery of niri and swayidle—elogind

Based on the debug output from swayidle, I started researching what the heck org.freedesktop.login1.Manager was doing. When using sway, this was not used on my non-systemd system, and swayidle works as expected.

With sway, the way it is working, from a casual user’s perspective:

  • swayidle intercepts for an “idle state” message.
  • swayidle runs the script that I have configured—swaylock-plugin locks and the background is rotated continually.

    • Using niri on my non-systemd system, there does seem to be this extra piece in the mix—logind. Or in my case elogind.

  • swayidle intercepts a PrepareForSleep signal...

    • https://nokoto.org/user/3/posts/964

    Solving the mystery of niri and swayidle—elogind

    nokoto
    uhuruDec 27

    #initdiversity

    so, just decided to purge #elogind and use #turnstile (from antiX repos), as session/login manager...

    + #seatd (seat management)
    + #opensysusers

    w/ runit init.

    so far so good...,
    xinit doesn´t autorun WM on login, still need to figure this out, but no big deal.. (+get to use #labwc compositor more often this way... )

    #Debian #Devuan #AntiX

    Show threadJdeBPSep 5, 2025

    @developing_agent @mcc @ariadne

    That's because systemd-logind, which is massively coupled to everything and not very cohesive, and is also never packaged as an individual thing, is and was one of the root causes of the problem.

    Even just separately packaging it would have avoided much of the original Debian Hoo-Hah in 2013, as I pointed out back then.

    http://jdebp.info/FGA/debian-systemd-packaging-hoo-hah.html

    @ska #elogind #DebianHooHah

    FGA: The gen on the Debian systemd packaging hoo-hah

    fredgMay 21, 2024
    https://chimera-linux.org/docs/faq Interesting point of view #systemd #elogind #chimeralinux
    FAQ

    Chimera Linux

    Chimera Linux
    smxiDec 20, 2023

    This slow rolling #inxi / #pinxi refactor is hitting little things left and right, first the redo of the ps data handler, which morphed into the program version refactor, which then morphed into the just completed Display Manager refactor, which expanded to add the previously incorrectly ID'ed login/seat managers, like #seatd, #greetd, #elogind. Now inxi shows dm if detected dm, but if not, shows login: [manager] item instead. This covers situations like sway, labwc etc, started by seatd.

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    werdahias (tired)Nov 5, 2023
    Nice, the new #elogind in debian experimental will unbreak my setup so I can finally run #Debian with #OpenRC as intended.
    GNU/Linux.chOct 20, 2022

    antiX 22 ist da!

    Das Federgewicht unter den Distributionen wechselt mit Version 22 zu seatd und consolekit und liefert somit ein systemd- und elogind-freies Betriebssystem aus.

    #AntiX #systemd #Elogind #Debian

    https://gnulinux.ch/antix-22-ist-da

    antiX 22 ist da!

    Das Federgewicht unter den Distributionen wechselt mit Version 22 zu seatd und consolekit und liefert somit ein systemd- und elogind-freies Betriebssystem aus.

    GNU/Linux.ch
    dnkl Sep 29, 2021

    Switched from #elogind to #seatd on my #Artix installation.

    Looking good so far!