"It has to be admitted, people responded to Trump for what he is. Which means we are left with the statements and proposals by which he distinguished himself. And millions of us—tens of millions—preferred him specifically for those points of difference, either excited by his promises to return us to a time when our system existed only for the benefit of certain people, and the preferences and needs of all others were beneath consideration, or at least willing to overlook those promises, in favor of some material or policy advantage.

And ultimately, the reason is immaterial. A man ran for president promising to use the power of the state to bring violence to scapegoated religious and ethnic minorities, to make America torture again, to make it easier for an already-militarized police force to employ violence, who praised dictators, who bragged about sexual assault, who praised vengeance as good, who promoted debunked conspiracy as fact, who stated his determination to ignore as conspiracy what the data overwhelmingly indicates is an oncoming global catastrophe. There was some other reason to vote for him, that allowed you to overlook these facts?

Save it, please. It really doesn't matter. It was a bad reason. We’ve seen this movie before.

Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed. That word is "Nazi." Historians study their motives, but there is a broad understanding: their motives don’t exonerate them. They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?"

— A. R. Moxon: Very Fine People, pp. 31-32

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#NeoNazi group ‘actively seeking to grow in #US’ with planned #paramilitary training event

#TheBase is emerging from shadows and ramping up its ranks as White House turns blind eye to the far right

Ben Makuch, Sat 7 Jun 2025

"An international neo-Nazi terrorist organization is boldly continuing to build in the US and planning a new paramilitary training event without fear of local authorities or the FBI, which once dismantled it in a nationwide effort.

"The Base, founded in 2018 by a former Pentagon contractor living in #Russia and now suspected of Kremlin-sponsored espionage, once boasted close to 50 stateside members before the bureau made more than a dozen arrests in a years-long counter-terrorism operation.

"But since the presidential election campaign last year and what many then believed to be a surefire victory for Donald Trump, the Base saw an opportunity in a potential administration uninterested in policing #WhiteSupremacy and went about ramping up its ranks.

"Now, the Base has a presence in #Ukraine, performing #sabotage operations inside the country against the embattled government, and new and dangerous cells emerging across Europe, and it appears to be growing in the US, where the FBI under the #Maga acolyte #KashPatel has signalled it isn’t prioritizing investigations of #FarRightExtremism.

"In its early history, part of what first piqued the interest of authorities was the Base’s courting of military veterans who could help drill its foot soldiers in a series of training camps across the US. Eventually implicated in an assassination plot, mass shootings and other actions in Europe, the Base went so far as to have a fortified compound and cell in #Michigan, led by a US army dropout.

"Online evidence from its various accounts, several of which live on #RussianServers to avoid censorship on American sites, shows the Base has real plans for a national gathering this summer where members intend to train in paramilitary drills as in years past.

" 'The Base in [the] USA is preparing for an upcoming national training event,' reads one of its recent posts soliciting crypto donations. 'This one might be our most attended training event in [the] USA in a while. We could really use some financial support to help our members with travel expenses.'

"The post continued: 'When you donate money to the Base, you’re investing in a #WhiteDefenseForce that’s aiming to protect white people from political persecution and physical destruction.'

"The Base then published a new photo of armed members claiming to be in the #midwest, which follows a trend in 2025 of the group bragging about its unafraid American presence. As a sort of taunt to its enemies, on the day of Trump’s inauguration the Base released a photo of four members somewhere in Appalachia, in what was the largest number of American members in one photo in over a year.

" 'The upcoming national training event indicates that the group is seeking to grow and is willing to take the risk of advertising it publicly in advance,' said Joshua Fisher-Birch, an analyst of #FarRightTerrorism who has been following the Base’s movements for close to a decade. 'The Base appears to be actively seeking to grow in the US.'

"Fisher-Birch notes that even if the gathering involves 'fewer than 20 people', it is by no means 'low profile' and suggests the group sees momentum is on its side.

" 'An event entails planning, coordination, travel and face-to-face meetings between different regional groups, indicating that they operate in an environment where they view the potential amount of risk as acceptable,' he said. 'The group has previously stated multiple times that being a member or training with them is a risky endeavor; however, planning a meetup, which they will inevitably use for propaganda purposes, is a different approach than even a year ago, when the group advertised regional activities.'

"In response to queries about the Base’s latest movements, the FBI told the Guardian that it only investigates people who have or are planning to commit a federal crime and pose 'a threat to national security'." [Of course Patel's FBI won't take action against #VeryFinePeople!]

Read more:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/07/the-base-neo-nazi-group-paramilitary-training

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#nsn #nazisnitchnetwork #nazisooknetwork #NationalSocialistNetwork #bigots
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Neo-Nazi group ‘actively seeking to grow in US’ with planned paramilitary training event

The Base is emerging from shadows and ramping up its ranks as White House turns blind eye to the far right

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Tucker Carlson Asks JD Vance About the Possibility of a Military Coup If Trump Wins: ‘That’s What Worries Me’

Tucker Carlson asked GOP vice presidential nominee JD Vance about the possibility of there being a military coup if Donald Trump is elected president again.

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#VeryFinePeople #Nazis #Trump

"It’s not that fucking hard! Either you welcome Nazis and make common cause with them or you do not. And if you do the former, you’re not a 'very fine person, and anyone who calls you that is just as shitty of a person as you are."

https://www.wonkette.com/p/let-us-be-real-clear-again-about

Let Us Be Real Clear (Again!) About The Problem With Trump's 'Very Fine People' Statement

People who march with Nazis to save Confederate statues are also horrible people!

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Why Is Snopes.com Helping Trump Clean Up “Very Fine People”?

The generally valuable debunker of right-wing lies made a very odd ruling recently that may have ramifications for the election.

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They say this is the same as keeping Rosa Parks’ bus. But I can’t find these #VeryFinePeople in the Unite the Right rally. I feel like I’m being gaslit, that these people feel justified because Snopes supports them. But I saw the press conference live. Am I misremembering? #Charlottesville #USPol 2/2

Meanwhile, over at The Reframe, @JuliusGoat has solved his funding issues. All he had to do was straighten out some Very Fine Facts. In fact, these are the Very Best Facts, the most factiest facts that were ever facted.

https://www.the-reframe.com/those-factist-facts-2/

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