@LillyHerself

#Longtermist Mike #ElonMusk who thinks that even his own trans daughter has lost her value for humanity, as she cannit fulfill her biological destiny anymore, for instance?

In earlier times, what you mention would've been very much in line with #SocialDarwinism, too.

And if you think of #Longtermists' believe of making #humanity a multi-planetary species, that is going to cost hundreds if billions.
We cannot support "suckers."

Said to say, but here we are.

@dangillmor

You're absolutely right on track.
For everyone belonging to the #TESCREAL community, in particucar #Musks's #Longtermist philosophies, a few million is no real problem for its acolytes.

https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/113979670223695177

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#USpol #Fascism
@pojntfx
#TikTok"s CEO will be at the inauguration of the first convicted-fellon president-elect, jointly with the fascist #TESCREAL #TechOligarch, #Elmo.

As you know from your history classes, what is the most important strategy in the rise of fascism?--The #Alignment of society (#Gleichschaltung.)

With #SuckerBerg having joined the #MAGA fray this week, the unholy alliance of them and the #fascist #Longtermist #Musk #TechBros, #TikTok is priceless for them.

@stavpup

@noondlyt

#TikTok's final days?

Let's hope not.

In my view, that would be #Elmo or one if his #BigTech #Longtermist sect members getting control of this entertaining #Chinese transplant.

Next year, we will be able to quote one of #GiovanniBoccaccio's jesters:

“We have taken him out of the frying-pan, and dropped him straight in the fire”

(Decameron, Second Day, first story, trans. G. H. McWilliam).

@altbot

@Snowshadow @lucybeahere

True.
Now, as he always managed to not take center stage, according to the article (apart from the Nobel prize,) he cannot possibly be a narcissist, can he?

So, me not having read anything about his personal life, could he be a #Longtermist like Musk?

David Noble builds on the work of White and Ovitt to offer an account of what he terms “the religion of technology” which amounts to a pervasive intermingling of religious concerns with the project of technology as a well as a tendency to link the quest for transcendence to technology.
From L.M. Sacasas's blog: https://thefrailestthing.com/2012/02/22/christianity-and-the-history-of-technology-part-one/ titled Christianity and the History of Technology, Part One

Sacasas has a newer Substack that goes into more recent events: https://theconvivialsociety.substack.com/p/secularization-comes-for-the-religion-6df . There are some great references in this newsletter, including American Technological Sublime by David Nye.
Nye tells a fascinating story about how Americans routinely experienced the advent of new technologies as encounters with the sublime. Not all technologies, of course, but Nye documents how technologies of a certain scale and dynamism elicited feelings of awe and wonder that could easily be described as religious in nature. Nye considers, for example, first encounters with the railroad, the factory, the Hoover Dam, the electrified cityscape, the Golden Gate Bridge, and, later, the atomic bomb and the launch of a Saturn V rocket during the Apollo program.
Nye shows that the experience of the technological sublime was incorporated into elaborate civic ceremonies and rituals that celebrated not only the technological marvel at hand, but also human ingenuity and the body politic.
The broad argument is that technological development is a religion in the United States. This is not meant as a metaphor, but as a literal fact: how Americans treat technology is not like a religious activity, it literally is one. I think this goes a long way towards explaining why we're so weird about #tech here and now and especially why there are actual cults formed around it. Noble calls this phenomenon the "religion of technology" and spells out the connections. Sacasas weaves this together with modern developments.

Meghan O'Gieblyn makes these connections with modern developments as well, for instance in this talk God in the machine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTXleWp5fUA . So has Émile P. Torres: https://www.xriskology.com

#TESCREAL #longtermist #EffectiveAltruism #AI #xrisk

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Christianity and the History of Technology, Part One

This is the first in a series of posts reviewing the work of a handful of scholars exploring the historical relationship between Christianity and technology.  Since the mid-twentieth century, there…

L.M. Sacasas
NIST staffers revolt against expected appointment of ‘effective altruist’ AI researcher to US AI Safety Institute
The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) is facing an internal crisis as staff members and scientists have threatened to resign over the anticipated appointment of Paul Christiano to a crucial, though non-political, position at the agency’s newly-formed US AI Safety Institute (AISI), according to at least two sources with direct knowledge of the situation, who asked to remain anonymous.
https://venturebeat.com/ai/nist-staffers-revolt-against-potential-appointment-of-effective-altruist-ai-researcher-to-us-ai-safety-institute/

Good for them! #longtermist / #EffectiveAltruist / #TESCREAL people are cultists and have no place in government. They're obsessed with fantasies like #xrisk that are disconnected from reality and distract from the actual harms #AI is already causing here on Earth. It's precisely the same phenomenon as holding endless discussions about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin while ignoring that people are suffering. It sounds like Secretary of Commerce Gina Raimondo might be a Kool-aid drinker herself or is sympathetic to the viewpoints of the Kool-aid drinkers.

From her Wikipedia entry:
Gina Marie Raimondo...an American businesswoman, lawyer, politician, and venture capitalist
Emphasis mine.

It's alarming that this is even happening, and you know the fix is in because they tried to rush the appointment without informing staffers ahead of time. I hope #NIST staffers prevail.

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NIST staffers revolt against expected appointment of ‘effective altruist’ AI researcher to US AI Safety Institute

NIST faces turmoil as staff consider quitting over Paul Christiano's expected appointment to a role at the US AI Safety Institute, sources say.

VentureBeat

"The one consistent aspect about this deterioration of the industry is their inability to think about the larger context, specifically about the various social contracts that govern #tech’s position in society.
They might see themselves as benevolent shepherds of humanity’s future, esp. the creepy #longtermist types, but by & large, they are power-hungry libertarian assholes.
This is why they leave scorched earth behind."

https://www.baldurbjarnason.com/2023/tech-broke-the-webs-social-contract/

Writing when tech has broken the web's social contract

Writing at the end of the world, from Hveragerði, Iceland

P(doom), the "probability" that #AI or #AGI will doom humanity, is a quantity that #longtermist / #TESCREAL zealots seem to care a lot about. It is the quintessential example of the reasoning error that ecological rationality calls out. There is no way to quantify the likelihood of "doom", no matter how you define that word, and it's pure nonsense to try or pretend you have. Doom is a large world phenomenon. The people credited with inventing the frameworks and techniques that allow you to even think in terms of P(doom), like Leonard Savage, explicitly called out just this sort of application as preposterous.

Nevertheless, US Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer invited a bunch of tech CEOs and technologists, among whom numbered many #longermist and similar kinds of zealots, to opine on their personal assessments of P(doom) in a legitimate hearing in front of the US Congress (there's good reporting on this here: https://www.techpolicy.press/us-senate-ai-insight-forum-tracker/ ).

I lack the words to express what I feel every time I'm reminded of this. Not good things.
US Senate AI ‘Insight Forum’ Tracker | TechPolicy.Press

Gabby Miller rounds up what we do (and don’t) know about Senate Majority Leader Schumer's forums, including documents and statements.

Tech Policy Press