Show threadErwin Rossen 🔸5d ago

Worth distinguishing the #EffectiveAltruism most of us actually practice, donating 10% of income to wherever it does the most good (global health, animal welfare, climate funds), from the TESCREAL / Roko's Basilisk / longtermist AI cult that keeps getting bundled with it. Very different communities with very different goals.

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hex5d ago

Every now and then someone brings up #EffectiveAltruism, #TESCREAL, #RokosBasilisk, #Rationalism, or some other #Musk related nonsense. I ridicule it, or laugh, and move on. The whole evil god of Roko's Basilisk is so silly it doesn't feel worth writing about. But people started a whole cult over it and killed a bunch of people.

Since then I've been meaning to actually spend time tearing it down. So I think it's time to go kill a god. Fortunately it involves making fun of Elon Musk specifically and all the #AI-pilled #TechBros more generally, so that's nice I guess.

Also, I make the argument that we're all in a simulation that only exists to torture Elon Musk.

https://hexmhell.writeas.com/galileos-basilisk

#NoAI #Singularity #longtermism #Yudkowsky #Zizians

Galileo's Basilisk

I am disappointed that I have to write this. It is deeply embarrassing that the thing I am writing about has gone on for so long, that so...

hex_m_hell
Show threadtoolbear#🌶️6d ago

Probably showing that Benn Jordan hit an industry nerve with publishing that video, an #EffectiveAltruist went on the attack:

"THE ALTRUISTS HAVE ARRIVED" — Benn Jordan
📰 https://www.bennjordan.com/blog/the-altruists-have-arrived

#Datacenters #Infrasound #NoisePollution #BennJordan #EffectiveAltruism

the altruists have arrived — Benn Jordan

I really hate that I have to take time away from research and meetings to respond to this, but I think this response is earned by the folks featured in my video, the people in communities and legislators I’ve consulted with, and those who have taken the time and expense to continue the research. I

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Climate MigrantApr 27

International Animal liberation dinner after the Effective altruism Nordics conference in Stockholm at the vegan restaurant Verte.

Being surrounded by antispeciesists who work in the academia and genuinely want to make the world a better place for animals, through their publications and educative talks is so refreshing.

#antispeciesism #veganfood #crueltyfreeeats
#Stockholm #effectivealtruism #academia #Verte #Ecuador #Norway #Germany #UK #US #Sweden #India #Greece #Hungary #Netherlands

Climate MigrantApr 25

Attending my first EAGx Conference in Stockholm, where the food is vegan and for me this is a Paradise, because I don't have to ask what I can eat and what I can't.

#effectivealtruism #stockholm

Usona HomaranoApr 22
It always amazes me that #EffectiveAltruism started as stuff like fighting disease in the developing world and has been hijacked to mean "give money to build and enslave God."
Show threadPauline von HellermannApr 19

@davidgerard @danmcquillan

Thank you for these! Have read the first two and am by now well and truly embarrassed.. I even knew of these AI doomers inside AI world hyping its dangers to “up it” (though hadn’t realised they were linked to #effectivealtruism); i just didn’t fully compute that Soares was one of those and was gullible because it was Novara Media..

Really enjoying your posts, by the way

Show threadPhilip C JamesApr 16

It's funny how those ultra-long-term decisions always seem to benefit the Tech Bro oligarchs & billionaires and their increasing wealth today as well, allegedly, as the intended beneficiaries - the notional humungous swarms of human beings who will have colonised the Cosmos in the far future, but never we, the ordinary people, who are alive around us today.

#USpol #UKpol #Trump #GOP #MAGA
#Thiel #Musk #Palantir #SpaceX #TwitteX
#EffectiveAltruism #EA
https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/philip-ball-the-dangerous-myth-of-neutral-technology/?utm_campaign=968afe29-39e7-45b6-a2e0-e403e0d51196&utm_source=1234589

The dangerous myth of ‘neutral’ technology

The notion that innovation is value-free conceals the political and ideological agendas behind it

The New World
Show threadSasha AkhaviApr 11
“This thing I know, only bigger,” and especially, “Me, only bigger” is as close as hypercapitalists get to understanding scale. It’s what Joshua DiCaglio calls “synecdoche,” the false idea that you can impose something at scale without fundamentally changing the thing itself. It’s how “#EffectiveAltruism” and “#longtermism” can base themselves in overcoming the “saliency problem” of large effects happening far from here yet ignore, say, the cost of burning tokens and water on #AI. 2/2
Raccoon🇺🇸🏳️‍🌈Apr 8

“I like that sentence and think it’s true.” is a phrase that still lives rent-free in my head. Every time it repeats, #NickBostrom sounds more like a moron.

To repeat a #MichelleObama quote which also lives rent free in my head, "These people are not that smart."

Remember that every time someone in charge claims to be the end-all be-all of anything, or tries to talk outside of their field of actual experience, especially when the #philosophy guy all the rich kids like starts talking about #genetics like he knows shit.   

#Bostrom #EffectiveAltruism