@alterelefant Doet me denken aan de #Wasa, het Zweedse oorlogsschip uit 1628 dat na 1300 meter varen zonk. Gebouwd door Nederlandse scheepsbouwers.

Een aanrader om te bekijken als je in Stockholm bent.

https://historiek.net/vasa-zweden-oorlogsschip-1628-wrak/81827/

#geschiedenisherhaaltzich #historyrepeatingitself

So, yes, this is from MSN -- however, it drives in the point about a lot of stuff from the updated #LimitsToGrowth projections.

Slide 4 seems to echo the quotes from Cline's 1177BC regarding resource extraction (tin) and the #BronzeAgeCollapse.

"4. Resource extraction costs skyrocket as materials become exhausted.

"The era of cheap, easily extracted natural resources is ending as mining operations move to increasingly remote locations, tap lower-grade ores, and require more energy-intensive processes to extract the materials that support industrial civilization. This fundamental shift in resource economics creates inflationary pressures that compound across every sector of the economy, making previously profitable activities uneconomical and forcing societies to choose between maintaining current consumption levels and investing in future sustainability.

"Energy return on investment ratios for fossil fuel extraction have declined steadily over decades, requiring more energy input to extract each unit of usable fuel while alternative energy sources struggle to match the energy density and scalability of conventional #petroleum-based systems. The transition costs between energy systems create economic bottlenecks that can trigger the kind of systemic failures that characterize #SocietalCollapse, particularly when resource constraints coincide with other stresses like #ClimateChange, political instability, and demographic transitions."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/mit-warns-society-could-collapse-by-2040-and-the-signs-are-already-here/ss-AA1LevRc?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhoverent&cvid=67506a067e5a4905be298b0a363777ec&ei=35#image=5

#Collapse #Change #TheLimitsToGrowth #PlanetaryBoundaries #HistoryRepeatingItself

More from 1177BC...

"There are only a few instances in history of such globalized world systems; the one in place during the Late Bronze age and the one in place today are two of the most obvious examples, and the parallels -- comparisons might be a better world -- between them are sometimes intriguing.

"To give just one illustration, Carol Bell, a British academician, has observed that 'the strategic importance of tin in the LBA [Late Bronze Age] ... was probably not far different from that of crude oil today. At that time, tin is thought to have been available in quantity only from specific mines in the Badakhshan region of Afghanistan and had to be brought overland all the way to sites in Mesopotamia (modern Iraq) and north Syria, from where it was distrbuted to points father north, south, or west, including onward across the sea to the Agean. Bell contianues, 'The availability of enough tin to produce ... weapons grade bronze must have exercised the minds of the Great King in Hattusa and the Pharaoh in Thebes the same way that supplying gasoline to the American SUV driver a reasonable cost preoccupies an American president today!"
- Eric Cline, "1177BC, The Year Civilization Collapsed," Preface to the revised edition, page xvii.

#ClimateChange #Collapse #Change #1177BC #BronzeAgeCollapse #HistoryRepeatingItself #Histodon #ExtractiveIndustries

"According to Joseph Tainter, who literally wrote the book on the collapse of complex societies, 'collapse is fundamentally a sudden, pronounced loss of an established level of sociopolitical complexity.' That was exactly what happened back in 1177 BC."

- Eric Cline, "1177BC, The Year Civilization Collapsed," Preface to the revised edition, page xvii.

#ClimateChange #Collapse #Change #1177BC #BronzeAgeCollapse #HistoryRepeatingItself