There are a lot of different options but this one seems a good blend of not US based, distributed system, old enough to be "established", and grown from a known organization so it isn't a one dv passion project that'll vanish overnight.
#privacy
@R3yScale @cwtch I would love if cwtch could replace simplex, fascist project maintainer and cwtch is more decentralised and censorship resistant
All it would take I think for me to say the switch is worth it would be quantum resistant encryption and new cryptographic identities in every chat (perhaps a different tor address for every new chat)
I also need to compare the deniability features - simplex has a nice hidden profile feature
#FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #Cwtch #SimpleX #Tor #Deniability
I like how people are recommending a bunch of FLOSS messengers now, its an opportunity to check out underrated projects like I just a few minutes ago learned about the FLOSS project Quiet (https://tryquiet.org) from a discord community trying to relocate.
The website says its all E2EE P2P with tor built in, channels like slack/discord, no email or phone number required. Unfortunately no quantum resistant encryption on the roadmap so I still would recommend SimpleX for general purpose instant messaging but Tor-by-default and P2P are genuine advantages over Simplex
If you found this post interesting you might also be interested in these decentralised encrypted messengers with various pros and cons compared to eachother:
Cwtch
https://cwtch.im
http://cwtchim3z2gdsyb27acfc26lup5aqbegjrjsqulzrnkuoalq5h4gmcid.onion/
Briar
https://briarproject.org/
Meshtastic
https://meshtastic.org/
#FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Security #Anonymity #Deniability #Meshtastic #Briar #Cwtch #SimpleX #Quiet #P2P #Tor #Slack #Discord
Thank you for being the only other person I see on my feed talking about simplex its refreshing
Imo its the gold standard in private anonymous group messaging. Better than Signal, briar, cwtch, deltachat, meshtastic.
All of them have some benefit over simples whether it be signals ease of use and stability, briars ability to share the binary over bluetooth, cwtch's simple in-app gui for self hosting, deltachat's interoperability with email, or meshtastics resilience in mesh networks.
But only simplex has no profile ids, quantum resistant encryption, advanced invite/multi profile management, as well as being decentralized
I think that especially anarchists and activists should seek this level of privacy because compromised contacts can have their conversations with you be corroborated to show you are the same person when you have a static id even if its a random string
Since I don't get to talk to people who use simplex much I should mention why I dont talk to the people in public simplex rooms: it skews far right because the creator is a trans hating[1] climate denier with a bunch of other right wing beliefs I cant remember, you know the usual.
That being said the developers have very little control over what happens on even their own servers: they can disable invite links they dont like but not rooms (invites can easily be regenerated), they can remove file links that get reported but not messages, (files are deleted after 48h anyway bc its a relay network they cant delete it when group members have it cached) and if either of these are hosted on another simplex server since its decentralised they cant do anything
except ig the nuclear option to totally cut connection to stop their own users connecting to users on that other server. but simplex is fairly simple to self host, we should be moving away from the official servers anyway
[1]
https://x.com/epoberezkin/status/1881832239186759841
#Simplex #FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #QuantumResistantEncryption #Transgender #Climate #ClimateDenier #Signal #Briar #Cwtch #DeltaChat #Meshtastic
#threema wurde verkauft
scheint immer mehr darauf hinauszulaufen dass die einzige mΓΆglichkeit fΓΌr privacy bei #messenger ist, das zeugs selbst zu hosten π
oder p2p messenger wie #cwtch zu nutzen
@sarah Okay if simplex is off the table my next favourites are Cwtch, Briar, and Meshtastic they each have different use cases but none have quantum resistant encryption so if I had to ditch simplex I might have to use Signal the only other messenger I know to have quantum resistant encryption but I'd had to weigh that against the anonymity problems with signal
#PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #FLOSS #E2EE #Cwtch #Signal #Simplex #Briar #Meshtastic #QuantumResistantEncryption