@sarah Okay if simplex is off the table my next favourites are Cwtch, Briar, and Meshtastic they each have different use cases but none have quantum resistant encryption so if I had to ditch simplex I might have to use Signal the only other messenger I know to have quantum resistant encryption but I'd had to weigh that against the anonymity problems with signal

#PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #FLOSS #E2EE #Cwtch #Signal #Simplex #Briar #Meshtastic #QuantumResistantEncryption

@Tutanota I've mentioned this before but SimpleX is more private secure and anonymous that signal threema and session.

SimpleX is decentralised meaning taking down a single group of servers or org wouldnt destroy the simplex network, people can run completely anonymous simplex servers over tor, this puts simplex ahead of Signal and Threema

SimpleX has quantum resistant encryption which puts it ahead of Threema and Session, the UK military[1] and NATO[2] both consider quantum computers to be a threat now because of store now decrypt later attacks

SimpleX has no user identifiers not even random strings, its essentially like having a "burner phone for every contact". Two or more compromised contacts could corroborate your messages by linking them to your signal username or your session id, but with simplex your contacts can't prove your identity even between eachother. This fact puts SimpleX above Signal Threema and Session

These technical details about the simplex protocol can all be found on the project website including the whitepaper[3]

[1]
https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/whitepaper/preparing-for-quantum-safe-cryptography

[2]
https://www.nato.int/docu/review/articles/2021/06/03/quantum-technologies-in-defence-security/index.html

[3]
http://isdb4l77sjqoy2qq7ipum6x3at6hyn3jmxfx4zdhc72ufbmuq4ilwkqd.onion/

#SimpleX #Threema #Signal #Session #PSA #Privacy #Security #Anonymity #NATO #UnitedKingdom #Tor #QuantumResistantEncryption

Preparing for Quantum-Safe Cryptography

An NCSC whitepaper about mitigating the threat to cryptography from development in Quantum Computing.

@briar Is there any plans to add quantum resistant encryption? This is one of the main advantages simplex has for me over briar right now

#Briar #SimpleX #FLOSS #QuantumResistantEncryption #E2EE

@miya Simplex has a lot of the same advantages of signal and is better in some ways

both are floss messengers and have quantum resistant end to end encryption

simplex has multi profile functionality and anonymous invite links so each dm can be like a burner phone with no single user id to connect you to all your dms

simplex is decentralised, while unofficial signal servers cant federate with the official servers simplex is built as a decentralised network of relays that can pass messages to each other for enhanced privacy and ip obfuscation kind of like tor, and its apparently very easy to run a simplex relay bc you dont need a huge media server files and messages are ephemeral its up to end users to archive or back up

Signal was attempted backdoored by the uk govt and was only saved by signal threatening to walk, if simplex is ever compromised or enshittified forks can be made without losing your contacts we aren't totally reliant on the official simplex relays unlike with signal

#FLOSS #InstantMessenger #SimpleX #Signal #QuantumResistantEncryption #Censorship #UnitedKingdom #E2EE #Enshitification

@sashin However if you want decentralised end to end encrypted messaging also with quantum resistant encryption then there is simplex

#Simplex #E2EE #DecentralisedMessenger #QuantumResistantEncryption

@sashin Signal is more secure because it has quantum resistance, although quantum computers can't crack classical encryption yet theyre close enough that there is an attack called harvest now decrypt later where classically encrypted data is sucked up now with the hope that soon they can get a lot of value out of decrypting it with quantum computers

the uk govt and nato both consider this to be a credible threat today and google uses post quantum encryption internally already, its also supported by several privacy focused floss projects like mullvad, tuta, signal and simplex

To learn more about the need to transition to quantum resistant encryption: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UrdExQW0cs

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This is an urgent threat to society writ large but also specifically to the military, given the importance of secure communication and secure information for defence and security. To counter this threat, we will have to completely upgrade all our secure digital infrastructure using cryptography that is ‘quantum-resistant’, i.e. secure against both quantum and classical computers.
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https://www.nato.int/docu/review/articles/2021/06/03/quantum-technologies-in-defence-security/index.html

#FLOSS #E2EE #QuantumResistantEncryption #Simplex #Signal #Tuta #Mullvad

What makes quantum computers SO powerful?

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@cwtch Is there a group on #cwtch to join for discussing the direction of the project? I would like to ask for #QuantumResistantEncryption as this is one of the things that keeps me from switching from #simplex but I wasn't sure if asking here was the best place