Francisco Escobedo

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NUEVO VÍDEO Visité PUY DU FOU el parque ULTRACATÓLICO que tergiversa la historia de España... tengo opiniones LINK: youtu.be/WzQkTUGKAeY

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I didn't have "identify so hard with an autistic murder robot that I spend the night sobbing" on my bingo card yesterday.

Apparently I'm still struggling with having kindness in my life sometimes. Over the decades, I got _way_ too used to feeling unworthy of love, and that's a hard thing to unlearn.

So this is my PSA: you _are_ lovable and you _do_ deserve kindness in your life*. And even (typically) cheery-looking folx like me struggle with shitty intrusive thoughts. You're not alone, it gets better, have a hug sandwich 🫂❤️‍🩹🫂.

*unless you've unironically worn a MAGA hat, in which case get bent, dick.

#ActuallyAutistic #LGBTQ #MentalHealth

That's 5D-educational chess.

#FuckGenAI #ChatGPT #GenAIsucksCamelDong

📣 CONTRA EL T3RR0R1SM0 RACISTA, COMUNIDAD ANTIRRACISTA

🔴 Se están organizando para sembrar miedo.
🛡️ Nosotras nos organizamos para protegernos, para sostenernos, para resistir.
Porque cuando el odio se expande, la comunidad se une.

✨ Cuidarnos es resistir. Defendernos es vivir.
Frente al terror: tejemos comunidad, tejemos antirracismo.

✊🏾 Nos queremos vivas, libres y juntas.
📍 Plaza del Sol
🗓️ sábado 19 de julio
🕢 20:00

Quedaos con los nombres y caras de quienes hoy alientan que se quemen ingentes cantidades de capital en la IA, lo crypto y demás casinos financieros porque serán los mismos que, cuando llegue la crisis, nos miren a los ojos y nos digan que todo esto es culpa nuestra por "haber vivido por encima de nuestras posibilidades".

I feel like we are losing kindness in our society, and this crushes my heart.

Empathy seems fading.

“Si entregas la definición de extranjero a los extremistas, ateos, homosexuales, protestantes, filatelistas, ‘sincebollistas’, todos pueden, todos podemos, ser acusados algún día de ser ajenos a una identidad nacional fantasiosa”

Mi columna de este miércoles en @el_pais

#autobombo🪘

https://elpais.com/opinion/2025-07-16/cuidado-con-el-odiar.html

Cuidado con odiar

El quién es de dónde es siempre una zona gris, y más en España, donde somos incapaces de establecer una identidad nacional única y distintiva

El País
Pues esto me lo he encontrado en el escaparate de mi tienda de cómics habitual y merecía foto 🤣

Jeff Bezos threats to buy Conde Nast should absolutely be taken seriously.

It would give him control over a number of media outlets that are strong voices in opposition of fascism (like Wired and Teen Vogue)

Under the oligarchs control they would be forced to become right wing propaganda.

Now more than ever we must support independent journalists… many of whom are speaking truth to power despite the personal risk.

If you can boycott Amazon, please do it. Send a strong message with your wallet that you don’t support fascism or the billionaire class.

If you can’t boycott, please don’t feel guilty. Many disabled people and those in poverty may be reliant on Amazon for supplies they can’t get elsewhere.

Trust that your community is boycotting on your behalf.

We’ve got you, and you need to take care of yourself in order to survive.

No guilt. We all resist in whatever way we can.

#uspol #bezos #amazon #fascism #authoritarianism

US artist Sue Beatrice who creates steampunk sculptures and jewellery out of old watch parts #WomensArt
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Ever wondered why car ergonomics have gone down the drain as touch screens replaced buttons to drive down costs? This reader comment on an FT article on the topic says it all.

@CoolSWEng I’m inclined to believe this is almost certainly not the reason.

For one thing, the odds of having a design team with no drivers in it are just pretty low. I work in tech, and in every design team I’ve ever been in I was the only non-driver. Most of the world is still too car-centric.

For a second thing, lots of good designers very often design for use cases which they themselves don’t share. You don’t have to be a pilot to design an aeroplane cockpit.

@paddyduke @CoolSWEng

To me it sounds crushingly plausible that a car company could end up with a tech team that has few enough drivers in it that they could be overruled by the others, plus a management team that "leads by spreadsheet" enough to not know enough to overrule the tech team's design.

@rastilin @CoolSWEng Most of the designers I have worked with were not the target users of their designs. And if by chance they were, we took steps to remind everyone that “you are not your user”. It’s neither necessary nor desirable for good design work to have a design team of ‘insiders’.

I don’t believe that the answer to bad ergonomics in modern cars is “hire only designers who are petrol heads”.

@paddyduke @rastilin @CoolSWEng I work in publishing and we have a fairly complex inventory management system that we use for every part of our process. Nearly every day I have reason to think, "the people who made this have clearly never tried to work with their own product."

@maccruiskeen Which is a fair criticism, but good designers should take that kind of thing into account whether they themselves are a publisher or not.

I’ve also used systems created by designers and non-designers that are very poorly optimised for any use case but the one that was most pressing at the time it was made.

There are all sorts of reasons that bad designs come to be though.

@paddyduke @CoolSWEng @maccruiskeen

Is it really not desirable for the designer to understand their users and product? I feel this entire thread is effectively about the consequences of designers that don't use their own product.

I feel that it often boils down to the question of "if you yourself wouldn't use your own product, why should anyone else"?

@rastilin That’s a straw man. The designer should understand the use cases of anything they design. But that’s not remotely the same thing as “being the person you’re designing for”.

If I designed things based on whether I would use it, I would probably design bad products from the perspective of everyone else. And I would absolutely bet that the designers who created these terrible car interfaces believed that they themselves would use them.

@paddyduke

It's an appeal to authority to say that because the theory says it's good, then it must be good. Presumably the users who hate it aren't experienced enough in design to understand why the interfaces don't suck. Also if those are the designers that don't drive and have little experience with cars, does it matter what they believe they would use?

Though I suspect that yes, the fact that touchscreens can be cheaper than buttons probably also factored into the decision.Though even then, surely they can't be *that* cheap, plastic buttons are basically free.

@rastilin @paddyduke It could also be that as designers, they just aren't very good at what they do.

@maccruiskeen 100%

Most likely it’s a multitude of factors encompassing the designers themselves, the environment and resources available to them, and pressures from other parts of the business.

I’m only saying that I don’t believe the whole problem is down to a handful of user interface designers not being enthusiastic drivers.

@paddyduke @maccruiskeen Plastic buttons are not "free", you need switches, and wiring, lots of wiring.
Then there's the assembly in the factory, the testing, and the maintenance burden.
There are reasons why car companies have slathered over the touchscreen as a "universal input device", and each of them has a shiny dollar sign on them.
From a usability point of view, as well as a safety point of view, they are a complete disaster. Thankfully drivers are rebelling.
@sleepyfox @paddyduke @maccruiskeen the “costs” of physical controls are negligible compared to safety. The designers didn’t decide to put the screens in the cars they just get told to design stuff for them. There is someone who decides what is physical and what is on screen and *that* person seems to be making very poor choices more and more frequently.

@rastilin @paddyduke

The touchscreen was going to be in the car regardless for other UX reasons. It also can perform the functions of the physical buttons. The cheap/free buttons still need to be manufactured, stored and fitted. Plus, all those buttons need electronics which also has the above costs.

If you look at it purely on a spreadsheet it makes immediate sense.

@rastilin @paddyduke @CoolSWEng dunnow, I remember working in a team that wrote tests to for Sky set top boxes, hardly any of us watched TV and or hard Sky.

@paddyduke @CoolSWEng

> You don’t have to be a pilot to design an aeroplane cockpit.

Yes, you do. In all major airplane companies user interface design decisions directly involve the end users (i.e. pilots); it's a lesson learnt the hard and bloody way.

@datenwolf @CoolSWEng You need a pilot (preferably multiple pilots) involved. But the designer usually works as a designer and is not necessarily a pilot themselves. I’m in no way arguing that you shouldn’t get input from your users. That would be absurd.

If you had to hold a role in order to design for it there would be no designers or architects or planners. And yet here we are. Design is a specific skill set and just having domain expertise doesn’t necessarily make you a good designer.

@paddyduke @CoolSWEng Yeah. It seems dubious to blame all the individual designers and not the leadership and the structures involved.

Even if the designers aren't the target market for the product, are they revising designs based on feedback from people testing the product? Who decided that essential functionality of the car would be on a touch screen in the first place? If the CEO and other top executives weren't involved in deciding that, they are nevertheless still responsible for recognizing if this might be a problem. (What are they paid so much for otherwise?)

If you just ask a team of designers to design a touch screen interface for these things, then just implement it, without any particularly testing and iteration or any thought about if it's a good idea in the first place... It's not really the designers who caused the problem here.

@paddyduke @CoolSWEng > For a second thing, lots of good designers very often design for use cases which they themselves don’t share. You don’t have to be a pilot to design an aeroplane cockpit.

Designers should absolutely, definitively never be allowed to ever design something they don't dogfood.

Lots of software design is made by people who don't end up using it (see Windows being designed by macOS users, or windows phones being designed by Android and iOS users) and it's an absolute shitshow: lots of things that look fancy but feel absoputely fucking awful to use, because the designers never interracted with the thing they designed beyond looking at it, and that's quite simply not enough to judge good design for something people are supposed to *interact* with

@CoolSWEng
Okay, so they KNOW, that it is a problem to produce a "2-tonne projectile in a world of [...] targets". Great.

#autokorrektur

@CoolSWEng there’s that, but also cost. Much cheaper to have a screen than all the buttons and knobs and wires. I’m a huge believer in tactile controls in cars. Things I can operate without looking
@CoolSWEng hahaha the gem in the alt text from ft dot com. Ft can get fucked.
The US Navy will replace its touchscreen controls with mechanical ones on its destroyers

The US Navy will replace the touchscreen throttle and helm controls currently installed in its destroyers with mechanical ones, says USNI News. The move comes after the release of an accident report from the National Transportation Safety Board about a collision between the USS John S. McCain and a tanker ship in 2017, which cited the controls as a factor in the accident.

The Verge
@CoolSWEng Give me physical buttons or give me death! This problem is everywhere. I was between two equally-priced sets of wireless headphones recently and chose the one with physical buttons. Now, I no longer have to worry about pausing my music or turning up the volume accidentally when I readjust my headphones.
@CoolSWEng Maybe they are also missing their Blackberry? I've driven a Model 3 for 6 years and the touch screen works just fine, though I hardly use it as there are physical controls for all the essential stuff.
@CoolSWEng If those designers were not drivers then it’s likely they either cycle or take public transport. Those types of commuters are actually far more aware of driver distractions than drivers. The problem as always is the car company and where they prioritise resources. They have moved too many controls to the touchscreen simply because it’s far cheaper to manufacture. This is at the cost of road safety and ergonomics. UX designers have far less clout than shareholders.

@CoolSWEng When we were “shopping around” for our first EV in 2022, I briefly considered, and test-drove, a Tesla. (The words “bullet” and “dodged” spring to mind…)

The main reason I HATED the experience: there were hardly any “hardware” controls, and so much was done on a large touchscreen. There are reasons why car interface design hasn’t changed much in decades… muscle-memory is vitally important when you’re a ton of metal barrelling down a road 🤦🏻‍♂️

@CoolSWEng Interesting 🫤 Explains a lot really.

@CoolSWEng I think the primary reason for modern cars lacking physical controls is that the billionaire owners of the car companies have chauffers instead of driving themselves.

Those stock holders then hire the CEO that promises to save the stock owners money by removing all physical car controls and replacing them with a touch screen. Those stock owners who make the decision which CEO to hire, won't know that removing the physical controls is a stupid idea because they don't drive themselves

@harmone oooh, I hadn't seen the parallels between the demise of Word Perfect / rise of Word and the demise of physical controls in automobiles before, but now it's staring me right in the face. Hard.

@CoolSWEng

@danlyke @harmone @CoolSWEng

Also, it's difficult to track usage of an analog control. It's easy to track usage of touchscreen controls.

@CoolSWEng Tesla originally used a big touchscreen because they couldn’t afford to have tools and dies made for injection molding of all these controls. Then everyone else cargo-culled them because it looks cool.

In Europe at least, cars won’t get a five star rating if they don’t have sufficient physical controls:

https://etsc.eu/cars-will-need-buttons-not-just-touchscreens-to-get-a-5-star-euro-ncap-safety-rating/

Cars will need buttons not just touchscreens to get a 5-star Euro NCAP safety rating

The consumer vehicle safety rating organisation Euro NCAP has announced changes to its protocols from next year to require physical controls for key functions. Matthew Avery…

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@fazalmajid @CoolSWEng That's a start, but they shouldn't be street-legal without physical buttons or with the presence of a screen in the driver's view except for the sole purpose of displaying backup camera.

@CoolSWEng

This seems to miss some context. The UX engineer are not deliberating wether a touchscreen is a good idea instead of a button, they are focussed on the UX on the touchscreen. I work in a tightly regulated field where there are major consequences when things go south - decisions like these are not made by engineers, who are trained to look through the potential pitfalls.

The decision to use a touchscreen - and that particular touchscreen (with whatever specs it has) - is something that is not up to the UX engineer. And, even if it did come from the UX engineers, there's a whole level of middle-managenent that has had to sign-off on it.

This decision is simply cost based: one part that you were going to have in the car in any case, that can just do all the functions that all those buttons would do ... the savings are easily visible.

@CoolSWEng
Is it just the touchscreens, or more generally the software and who owns/runs it, which allows 100% surveillance, free training of A"I"s, etc.?

How far are we from seeing a "car as a service" money making scheme, where the owners won't own the car but instead pay and get a license by the company to merely use it (like software)?

@65dBnoise @CoolSWEng Former tech exec car industry here:

1. It’s a combination of the infotainment and vehicle automation systems, including over-the-air software updates for both.

2. Not far, but the traditional automakers are still very hardware oriented. They want to sell you a tangible asset. They’re not good at services in my experience. Your idea is ripe for exploitation, especially when people can come together in small groups to cover the costs.

@meltedcheese @CoolSWEng
So one could probably trust traditional automakers a little more, although some have been caught cheating wrt emissions in the past, and that too was in software. In which case, it seems to me that the only honest solution for such problems, including spying on drivers, would be for the car control/automation software to be open source. Patented, copyrighted, etc, but #opensource and with a verification checksum checked and displayed at the turn of the key to start.
@CoolSWEng Unfortunately, this holds true for some of my colleagues as well 🥲

@CoolSWEng With respect, I think this comment says half of it. You don't push a car out just like that, designers don't just put their tablet in the car and nobody ever checks it again. People all through the chain didn't care.

And if nobody ever checked, that's also the other half.

@CoolSWEng I love that even engineers working for car companies have no interest in cars and no licenses. This society has spent far too long obsessing over fucking cars.

@CoolSWEng

German company's wanted modern tech to tie drivers to their service plus deliver huge amounts of marketable information.

In any case
Read about the scandals, they do not give a shit about health driver or public safety. Only obscene profits count.

@CoolSWEng having witnessed a new car programme within a manufacturer, parts are defined a long time before the whole car is put together, just so suppliers can spin up their deliveries in the volumes required. Meanwhile, your competitor brings out a new feature that makes your car look dated. Touch screens and putting everything in software means they can stay flexible in the design and what they offer at different price points until far later. So it speeds up the vehicle programme.

@CoolSWEng Whilst I like the simple explanation, I think this is not the root cause.

I think the entire industry is trying so sell that "abstraction from the broader reality" and for some reason the vast majority of us want to buy the dream.

So this is embeded in not only the UI but also the external design (SUV that make it impossible for drivers to see children), the advertising, the reviews, the infrastructure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motonormativity

#Motonormativity

Motonormativity - Wikipedia

@CoolSWEng @quixoticgeek Ok but I can’t help to think that all execs pushing for such screens to exist in the first time might share a generous part of the responsibility too.

@CoolSWEng I'm an engineer and sewer. Reformed (?) Collector of sewing machines.

I've got a high-tech, modern, $7k sewing and embroidery machine that is just an awful experience. There is a plastic seam that the thread will get caught on on the way to the thread snip. It's got a wide deck for things like quilts, but the spaces where your fingers are needed just a bit too small. It just isn't comfortable to sew with.

None of my vintage machines are that poorly designed. There is more clearance around things that need threading. They make precise sewing easier, because I have analog controls instead of pre-determined computer controlled increments. A thread width over matters, and is visible in the results.

My daily sewer is a 1950 Featherweight that does 2 things exceptionally well: sew backward and forward. I rarely use my experensive machine.

The basics get lost in the noise of features, if you ask me. Which is my my car will give you the Gs on a corner but lacks a max defrost setting.

@CoolSWEng this story matches exactly what these damn things look like and yet i'm horrified anyway
@CoolSWEng Okay, but isn't this why car-makers have extensive road-testing by trained professionals? Where are they?
@CoolSWEng i think the problem is the guy who decided to make the interface a single ipad so they could hire app developers who get paid less than industrial designers, not the app developers who are just doing what they are told to pay their bills.
@CoolSWEng
FYI, ft.com inserted some text about not copy/pasting from their site into the text you copied for the alt text.
@nyquildotorg @CoolSWEng
That's really awful of them, seriously
@CoolSWEng soon enough it'd be vibe designed
@CoolSWEng that is just...it's incredible to me. car interiors designed by people who don't want to drive, who need to be taxied and yet they hate taxi drivers so they need robot taxis (smoke starts issuing from Chara's ears)

@CoolSWEng The ultimate in ergonomics design used to be considered to be the motorbike where, by necessity, you have to be able to work every control with a small movement of a hand or finger or foot without looking at them.

Is that still the case?

@CoolSWEng

I want to share but the terms and conditions at the top of the alt text seem pretty disrespectful to the concept of alt text. I want to blame FT for that

@CoolSWEng maybe the designers grew up with modern cellphones and tablets and wanted to translate that UI paradigm to cars.
@CoolSWEng
Why the ergonomics of _everything_ has gone to sh**.
Not just cars.
@CoolSWEng wow this is much much worse.
@CoolSWEng @cm I disagree. The main problem is that there is a screen at all as a user input device. It may well work as a display, but user input through a screen, instead of through knobs, levers, wheels, or other tactile physical objects, is a bad idea to begin with.

@CoolSWEng That matches with what I've heard some years ago:

No driver's license, no interest in cars but implementing the code for the "turn indicator" on left side of the steering wheel, first SW version:
- "turn indicator up": lights outside flash one after the other "clock wise"
- "turn indicator down": lights outside flash one after the other "counter-clock wise"

@CoolSWEng Finally! The first time I saw a panel in a car, I thought: That's going to cause accidents.

I rented a car where the A/C controls were _sliders_ on a screen. And you *had* to stare at it (and not the road), just to adjust it. I finally had to pull over and stop the car just to set the temp. And as I drove further, and night fell, I had to keep pulling over to re-adjust.

I will never buy such a car.