Mastodawn

RE: https://mas.to/@carnage4life/116806161449420890

everyone freaking out about post-quantum cryptography needs to remember that there are possibly a dozen quantum computers in the entire world, and they are absolutely nowhere near being ready for general purpose computing. the cooling needs alone are immense.

and on top of that, now we got microsoft lying about their setup and its outputs

Robert [KJ5ELX]

@Viss so even Microsoft's research papers are frameworks.

Gilgwath 4d ago

@Viss I think the only thing Microslop is actually competent in these days is cooking up new UX dark patterns. There rest is just lies, incompetence, and whining about bad bad people who know their software better than they themselves.

Tony “Abolish ICE” Arcieri🌹🦀4d ago

@Viss @carnage4life on the one hand there have been some interesting developments in quantum error correction recently, as well as improvements in quantum resource estimates for cryptanalysis, on the other hand it remains to be seen if quantum computers can ever be scaled to be large enough break public key cryptography at all, and the largest number factored on an actual quantum computer using an almost comically minified version of the polynomial time Shor’s algorithm is… 21

@bascule @carnage4life pretty much 100% of the discussion about post quantum cryptography is based on "what these things might be able to do in the future" and not "what they are capable of now"

Davi Ottenheimer 4d ago

@Viss @bascule @carnage4life i try to keep a running tab of the timelines and also the state of vendor preparedness. my Q2 Report is about to land: https://pqprobe.com/blog

[PQ]files - PQProbe

Post-quantum cryptography analysis, vendor assessments, and migration guides from the PQProbe team.

Scott Francis 3d ago

@bascule @Viss @carnage4life also useful to note that there are about 8 hardware modalities for quantum, and only a few are superconducting. The whole field is very much like mainframes in the 40s and 50s: bespoke machines designed for a particular problem set, with programming interfaces unique to that machine and little to no ability to connect to the outside world.

However: telling somebody they should make a 3-5 year change when the threat materializes, on data with a 15-20 year shelf life, is why people need to act now (Mosca's inequality). By the time everybody agrees this is a present danger, there will be no way to retroactively mitigate that risk exposure.

Davi Ottenheimer 4d ago

@Viss it's regulatory now more than speculative.
CNSA 2.0 says KEX by 2030
EO 14409 also says 2030

Alien software, human hardware 4d ago

@Viss noooo! Dont tell them, Let them freak out. btc is already dropped below 60k shortly because of this stupid tweet.

Jernej Simončič �4d ago

@Viss No, no, once they manage to factor 21, it'll all speed up exponentially!!

Feral 3D 3d ago

@Viss ohhhh snap

@Viss
They did claim to use their chat bot in the design and testing processes, so i feel like this might be AI induced psychosis combining with the pressure to meet market objectives to make at least one very motivated observer at Microsoft who then told everyone what they really wanted to hear

@Viss sounds like agent curveball to me serving a "casus belli" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curveball_(informant)

#conspiracy #pq #disinfo

Curveball (informant) - Wikipedia

Cybarbie 3d ago

@Viss but if they can't spread fud then how will they grift?

Scott Francis 3d ago

@nf3xn @Viss grift finds a way

@nf3xn ads in the start menu in windows 11 :D

schrotthaufen 3d ago

@Viss @nf3xn I wonder how much effort it takes to get a malvertising campaign to show up in there…

CassandraVert 3d ago

@Viss That includes 47, who put out a big executive order reorganizing departments.