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Duckbilled Plattypus.@littlealex Not my musical cup of tea, but these kids are shockingly brilliant and on point.
Kai und der Andere 🎗️@littlealex i can't understand what band name they say at the beginning. :(
edit: but I found it in the internet: Knights of Molino
John Tinker@littlealex
True, the AI does not understand human experience. However, it know nearly everything that has ever been said about the human experience. The AI brings a chorus of echos of real authors.
True, the AI does not understand human experience. However, it know nearly everything that has ever been said about the human experience. The AI brings a chorus of echos of real authors.
Pip@johntinker @littlealex You are defending a fascist system of control. Why?
@pip
You are making a statement of tribal loyalty instead of responding to the content of my comment. Why is that? I know what I am talking about: Do you?
You are making a statement of tribal loyalty instead of responding to the content of my comment. Why is that? I know what I am talking about: Do you?
@johntinker If so, than my tribe is humanity you motherfucker.
Which side are you on?
@pip
You sound like a Naza. Which side are you on? I note the lack of intellectual curiosity, the jumping to conclusions, the lack of research, the threatening tone.
You sound like a Naza. Which side are you on? I note the lack of intellectual curiosity, the jumping to conclusions, the lack of research, the threatening tone.
@johntinker It is an issue of bedrock morals for me. The environmental, social, and political costs are so grievous that it doesn't matter what AI can or can't do. And this is a conclusion I drew after years of study and careful consideration.
@pip
I have been interested in the language in which people have expressed ideas, and have studied the structure of language, rhetoric and locution since my youth, many decades ago. This is a major interest of mine, as reality seems to be one thing, and what people say about it seems to be quite different. I see contradictions everywhere, and have always sought methods to point them out.
You will be able to convince me that data centers are a real problem. You will be able to convince me that data itself is used for horrible purposes. More: that targeting lists are paying for AI development, that LLMs are not AGI, and that the confusion between the two is inflating the bubble. You can convince me that AGI is a misconception, and impossible to even define.
But you will not convince me that settling these issues can be done by making demands that everyone think like you do, or they become fair targets for abuse.
There is a great deal that might be being said right now that would be useful ways to think about AI, LLMs and chatbots, but the conversation is not happening on the left, because the people who know things have been silenced by noises from the crowd.
I would be curious to know your own ideas, and how you came to them.
@johntinker I agree with you so far as I've noticed that even most of those on the left are asking questions like "how can we use AI in a socially-positive way"? (which is the wrong question) rather than asking questions like "Why are people interesting in using AI in the first place?" or "How can we tear down the system known as AI?"
Those interested in learning the truth about AI would do well to read @danmcquillan or @timnitGebru.
Aileme@johntinker @littlealex my anus brings a chorus of the echo of real food
Davide_Sandini@Aileme
.. But it's operation is normslly more controllable than AI's output...
@johntinker @littlealex
.. But it's operation is normslly more controllable than AI's output...
@johntinker @littlealex
StrypeyThe net contains ...
@johntinker
> nearly everything that has ever been said about the human experience
Does this mean the net knows things? See;
DB 🌱💦 (@[email protected])
Attached: 1 video Imagine if someone photocopied every book in the public library, burned the library down, and then opened a subscription service for the copies. That's the AI business model. And here's how they're pitching their slop to us. Sam Altman: “We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a metre." #AI #SamAltman #AIslop #TechBrosAreInsane
@johntinker
> Does a book know things?
No. The person who wrote the book might know things, and someone who studied the book diligently and/or has a particularly good memory might end up knowing some of them too. Otherwise there wouldn't be much point in books.
But to say that a book can "know" requires a definition of that word so expansive that it becomes meaningless.
Does a plant know it contains genes? Does a machine know about the serial numbers stamped on it?
I am trying to point out that things that do not "know things" can still be useful tools for learning things.
@johntinker
> things that do not "know things" can still be useful tools for learning things
Sometimes. Certainly in the case of the net and books. I wouldn't try to learning anything from a Trained #MOLE though. That would be about as useful as going to a library where instead of reading a books, you open a stack of them to random pages, and read a word from one book, then from another, and so on.
Pria@johntinker in truth it doesn't “know” anything.
@theseliminaldays
You're right. Hang onto that thought.
You're right. Hang onto that thought.
Advanced Persistent Teapot@johntinker @littlealex it's a statical repetition device. It doesn't *know* anything.
You are absolutely correct. It was a slip of usage of language on my part. Once everyone understands your point, then it abbreviates things to put it like that.
I notice, very much, that "AI" is being sold as the illusion of what it is, rather than its real nature.
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As I see it, this is fraud. A lot of people will get their brains fried over this, unfortunately.
This level of fraud is occurring more and more in different realms, like in democratic governance.
If nothing else, it offers to those who see it an index on the health of the society.
Corruption builds the power of the corrupt. This is a re-entrant function. It will reach a level where something will break. Corruption at the top cannot reform itself. It must be dealt with my forces of integrity at lower levels, unless they have already been purged.
Ness@littlealex They rocked it 🤘
your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦@littlealex okay, that fucking SLAYS
Julima
Paul@littlealex I would like to think that Joe Strummer is looking down and enjoying that.
Stuart Celarier ❌👑@littlealex Who are these brilliant rebels?
Linda Rose Smit@VisualStuart @littlealex they are not rebels. They are very young and have all they want or need. Daddy pays. Or mummy.
Sarah Roth@lindarosesmit @VisualStuart @littlealex The guitarist plays a Gibson Les Paul, a premium model that is to punk what a Luis Vitton handbag to hiking.
@sarahroth @VisualStuart @littlealex exactly. Very well directed all this. I bet dad writes the lyrics. An antidote to his dayjob in advertisement.
Siobhan
CoastalCoasting@littlealex
They rock, and they're spot on speaking truth to power, love them! Found where the single can be bought for $1.50, pretty cheap to encourage and support young artists on the rise. Hope we hear a lot more from them ahead. https://knightsofmolino.bandcamp.com/track/take-back-control
They rock, and they're spot on speaking truth to power, love them! Found where the single can be bought for $1.50, pretty cheap to encourage and support young artists on the rise. Hope we hear a lot more from them ahead. https://knightsofmolino.bandcamp.com/track/take-back-control
Take Back Control, by Knights of Molino
track by Knights of Molino
@CoastalCoasting
> They rock, and they're spot on speaking truth to power, love them!
I found an article about the band on the local public broadcaster;
https://www.kqed.org/arts/13984023/knights-of-molino-take-back-control-mill-valley-punk-band
@strypey @littlealex Great article, thanks for that cherry on top.
ElektropunkFuck Yeah!
🏳️🌈 Happy Pride-onphan! 🏳️⚧️@littlealex GOD FUCKING DAMN!
If we're not all dead due to climate change or killed by the fascist state, these kids have a bright as hell future! And fortunately not because of the heat death of the universe.
@littlealex
I need the address to ask for a CD/DvD, cassette, vinyl or whatever else.
I need the address to ask for a CD/DvD, cassette, vinyl or whatever else.
GeePawHill@littlealex Damn. Worthy of the DKs.
Overwhelmed entity@littlealex
fuck… the kids _are_ gonna be all right
fuck… the kids _are_ gonna be all right
sknob@littlealex @HydrePrever Fantastic!
Walter Frosch@littlealex This young gentlemen are amazing! They remind me of #TheLindaLindas – very young, very talented, and on point. 🚀
frlan@littlealex Ich mag diese Kombi aus frühen Punk und den Drops dazwischen. Also auch musikalisch durchaus mal erfrischender Punk
Jean Luc am Grimmsten@littlealex
would have been cool to switch on the mic he used at the beginning 🥴
would have been cool to switch on the mic he used at the beginning 🥴
jabsonik@littlealex Excellent song too!
blausand 🐟If you think this is brilliant, you missed the point. It's not. It's shitty, and therefore it's real punk. 🧑🏼🎤
Brilliant is the stuff AI delivers, boring perfection, missing the clue. Exactly what those boys criticize.
Brilliant is the stuff AI delivers, boring perfection, missing the clue. Exactly what those boys criticize.
3Jane Tessier Ashpool@littlealex these kids are rad
Alberto Cottica@littlealex the kids are alright.
Jon@littlealex hell yeah!
otter_linnusSomebody call #NitroRecords
B. Garfoot 
@littlealex The kids are definitely alright.
ClaudioM@littlealex They sound AMAZING! 
Worthy of a @OffTheHook outro, IMO. 💯
nLupo 
@littlealex Punk is not dead.
Wordmark
Müllermeier@littlealex that's so good, damn
Anny is not done growing@littlealex
> 🎶🎵 Artificial intelligence
> 🎵🎶 Can't know the human experience
🔥🔥🔥
Elton Cora (Honorary)@littlealex damn baby Jello there got some pipes. Love these kids.
Karl@littlealex the kids are alright
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