General reminder: Do not discuss your ✨ crimes ✨ on Fediverse. Every six seconds, some tech bro announces an extremely effective scraper and indexer for Fediverse and gets trounced for it.

Those are the ones we hear about.

No matter the privacy level you set for a post here, you should assume it's public in some capacity.

@EveHasWords Like ALL that you publish online, ever.
@EveHasWords Like I tell my kids: if you put it online, assume it’s there forever.

@superflippy

and that someone else may use it for something you didn't intend or consent to

@EveHasWords

@superflippy @EveHasWords the only words that disappear from the internet are the ones you wish were preserved

Anything you want erased stays forever

@EveHasWords This topic really rubs me the wrong way lately given those whose very existence is in danger of soon being criminalized. Where do you draw the line between personal safety and silent consent? I will not advocate silence if it leads to erasure.
@earthshine Since I'm one of the ones whose existence is in danger of being criminalized, I would expect that you would take my advice post in the spirit that it was shared in: admitting to specific criminal acts on the internet is inadvisable.
@EveHasWords This is valid and true, and I don't dispute the prudence of the messaging either... I just worry for all those going quiet right now.

@EveHasWords @earthshine

For those of us with privilege (which may or may not include you) now very much the time to ratchet up our support and be ever more vocal and visible allies.
For those directly threatened, being quieter and not providing extra excuses for attack is perhaps wise, and certainly understandable.
And admitting illegal acts online is never wise unless you are explicitly inviting a response in civil disobedience.

@EveHasWords
Don't discuss crimes you've allegedly commited in general. The only people who need to know that you were allegedly involved are the people who were allegedly there with you, in which case they already know about it... allegedly.
@EveHasWords I shall authorize the mass deportation of every tech bro off the face of the Fediverse!

@EveHasWords

Incase folks wonder about who has in the past here's the list of the ones we know about thanks to @s0

https://cathode.church/fedi-scraper-counter.html

It has been X days since a Fedi Scraper.

@EveHasWords even better, DO NOT PUT ONLINE ANYTHING YOU DO WANT NOT EXPOSED.

Unless it's encrypted and the keys tightly controlled, data you think is confidential is only protected as well as the actions and practices of entities with the *ability* to access it allow. Private data is exposed in breaches *daily*, and that doesn't even factor in people with legitimate access who might look and disclose for any reason

Edit: "do not want exposed" strengthened to "do want not exposed"

@joachim ouiii voilà, ça me rassure qu'on en parle
parce que ça m'a donné de l'anxiété quand les options de recherche ont été implémentées, et faute de temps (et de connaissances) j'ai pas trouvé une occasion et une bonne manière de parler de ça ou d'ouvrir le débat avec les gens ici

@anaelleoberlin @joachim je ne tiens pas à alimenter ton angoisse, mais n'importe qui a accès à fedi. Fonctionnalités de recherche ou non. Que ce soit des individus, des techbros, des méga corporations ou des gouvernements. Faire un scraper (AI ou autre) n'est pas 1-clic facile, mais c'est pas exactement difficile pour quelqu'un avec un minimum de connaissances en programmation logiciel.

Comme l'ont dits plusieurs sur ce fil de discussion, tout ce qui est en ligne y est pour toujours et accessible à tous. Est-ce d'intérêt pour quelqu'un? Probablement pas. C'est pour ça qu'il est important de déterminer son profil de menace quand pense à se prémunir de défenses informatiques. Est-ce que le gouvernement va t'arreter pour avoir mis des photos de ton chat? Très peu probable. On revient donc au message original...

@dacmot navrée de ne pas avoir pu te répondre au moment de ta réponse (tout ce qui se passe + ma vie personnelle) fait que je n'arrive pas à rattraper la communication avec les gens sur internet.
la raison première de mon toot c'est de partager le toot original pour encourager à ce que ce soit discuté sur le fedivers, car c'est une des raisons principales pour lesquelles j'appréciais ce projet. c'est comme ça qu'il y a peut-être une chance de trouver des solutions (je pense ça dans mes moments
@dacmot de plus en plus rares d'optimisme). donc je suis consciente des dangers (mais je te remercie d'avoir commencé en disant que ce n'était pas dans un but d'alimenter l'angoisse. it is thoughtful et c'est une des choses cruciales pour qu'on garde notre humanité d'avoir ce reflexe, je trouve)
Ensuite, cette réponse https://hackers.town/@earthshine/113913209578120204 dit ce que je pense au fond de moi. Je ne sais pas comment chacun de nous vit intérieurement l'expérience de ce monde, mais pour moi, avoir grandi
Earthshine --> moved (@[email protected])

Content warning: personal safety vs tyranny

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@dacmot dans une dictature, c'est presque plus crucial qu'avoir à boire et à manger que de pouvoir s'exprimer politiquement. c'est pour cela que ce n'est pas évident de considérer juste comme simplement un reflexe logique et simple qui fait qu'on se protége en ne mentionnant rien qui ait de l'impact contre les pro-dictature.
@anaelleoberlin pas de soucis. Merci pour l'explication.

@EveHasWords Basic internet principle I figured when I was 12 and on dialup.

But good that you're reiterating it. It must be reiterated. Again and again and again.

Always speak like you're being recorded.

@monsoonrains @EveHasWords

You should always act like you're being recorded on the internet because you literally are always being recorded.

@eestileib @monsoonrains @EveHasWords I’m pretty sure my phone is recording me too based on the ads I get after conversations I’ve had. So

@humongouspudding @monsoonrains @EveHasWords

Apple admitted "accidentally" turning on Siri and recording stuff, so most likely.

@EveHasWords what if I say that on november 1st 2018, in the city of Rennes, I threw stones at a police car (despite the fact that I didn't do that, and that I have very solid evidence that I didn't and couldn't have done that)? Would that make their work harder?

@Corneille @EveHasWords

In TrumpWorld, if you made a confession, they don't NEED to prove what you said.

If you wanna go to court to disprove what you 'confessed' to, it's your choice. And it's expensive. And you might not have enough money for bail—so you'd sit in jail while awaiting trial.

So if I were you, I wouldn't.

@_chris_real @EveHasWords not in the US, and never intend to go there
@_chris_real @Corneille @EveHasWords they don't need you to actually have committed a crime let alone admit to one. If the number of pregnant women and children being deported is anything to go by.
@EveHasWords Nothing electronic is private. Some things are easier to break, some are hard. Your #privacy depends on what you can afford and on your threat model: who are you trying to protect against? A high school hacker? The US Gov A-Team?
@EveHasWords there's nothing online that truly private, be careful guys
@EveHasWords
First rule of the Internet: Everything is public.
Second rule of the Internet: Everything is public!
Third rule of the Internet: Everything is saved by someone.
@aanee @EveHasWords fourth rule of the Internet: people will absolutely ragebait you

@EveHasWords @yuhasz01

No one likes to hear it, but the same is true for ALL Internet devices. No exceptions REGARDLESS what the tech bros assert. If you put it on a networked computer, it can be stolen, by a thousand ways. Data sold, company sold, new CEO, pretty well-dressed buxom maiden shows cleavage at the front desk and asks (this happened)

Internet has no provinance. None. Nada. Zip. This should be taught in kindergarten!

teledyn 𓂀 (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image The only truly effective network security device is also surprisingly affordable… #honestInfosec

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@EveHasWords How far can we go?

What about encouraging crime?

Or calling for the death of people like Trump or Musk?

Or making the case for violence?

I think it would be good to get close the line where we would face consequences but not quite getting there.

@sashin @EveHasWords Encouraging crime is a crime, either being an accessory, or starting a conspiracy.

Plausible deniability still exists if saying #impeachTrump or #embargoTesla, or by still keeping news of Luigi active.

@EveHasWords I don’t think you should confess to your crimes (or admit any kind of police interaction you have had) online at all because you don’t want the wrong person coming across what you say and twisting the story around to make you look bad or go so far as to dox/harass you over it. Even if you didn’t do anything wrong and the cops were assholes to you about it.
@EveHasWords yeah, for this reason I think it might have been a mistake for Mastodon to offer any features that could be misinterpreted as offering privacy

@EveHasWords

But still …

Be Gay, Do Crime.

@EveHasWords
But then what the hell was the point of doing all those crimes!?

@EveHasWords Everything that isn't #encrypted securely with a *real #E2EE = #SelfCustody-only like #PGP/MIME & #XMPP+#OMEMO needs to be regarded as #public - period!

#ITsec #InfoSec #OpSec #ComSec

thaddeus e. grugq on Twitter

“I’m gonna tell you a secret about “logless VPNs” — they don’t exist. Noone is going to risk jail for your $5/mo https://t.co/Q2aOQJkG4g”

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@EveHasWords what crimes? I don't see any crimes...
@EveHasWords I would go further and say don't share that information electronically. Many of the January 6 offenders and many of those wrapped up in 45's criminal cases used Signal, Telegram, What'sApp, etc. thinking they were safe.

@EveHasWords
Remember "jammers" from the TV show The Prisoner? These folks gently leaked the (false) rebellious deeds they were planning so that the Authorities would have to investigate them. To jam-up the investigation process. If everyone hints at plausible crimes, investigators get overwhelmed.

After a while the Authorities identified and just ignored all the jammers. Hence creating the environment where some of them could collude successfully on actual rebellion.

#TV #6 #iAmNotAnumber

@EveHasWords The general rule for criming is to keep it secret.

And remember that three can keep a secret if two of them are dead.

@EveHasWords

Oh no ... I'm in all kinds of trouble ... Hugz

Hugz & xXx

@EveHasWords *repeating like a religous mantra* fedi is not private fedi is not private fedi is not private...
@EveHasWords (For the record, I am taking what you say seriously. What I'm about to post is for the benefit of the scrapers. 😉)

I CONFESS.

In third grade, I cheated on my history exam. In fourth grade, I stole my uncle Max’s toupee and I glued it on my face when I was Moses in my Hebrew School play. In fifth grade, I knocked my sister Edie down the stairs and I blamed it on the dog…. When my mom sent me to the summer camp for fat kids and then they served lunch I went nuts and I pigged out and they kicked me out….

@EveHasWords

...But the worst thing I ever done — I mixed a pot of fake puke at home and then I went to this movie theater, hid the puke in my jacket, climbed up to the balcony and then, then, I made a noise like this: hua-hua-hua-huaaaaaaa — and then I dumped it over the side, all over the people in the audience. And then, this was horrible, all the people started getting sick and throwing up all over each other. I never felt so bad in my entire life.

@EveHasWords

@courtcan @EveHasWords
Lol. I was on acid at a Yes concert once and a woman in the row in front of me about 3 seats to the right blew chunks all of the guy sitting in front of her.

Those are the only two facts I remember about the concert. 😂😂😂

@EveHasWords
Some newsletter or something I used to read had the signature line, “This is not a secure channel.” It lives in a tape loop in my head every time I am online.

@EveHasWords
Why do you say this when we live in a world where you can rape women, steal, cheat on your taxes and still become president of the USA or become a member of the Trump administration.

I understand your fear but asking EVERYBODY to stay silent is not the answer.
Just a thought.

@ericschutte I'm not asking people to stay silent. I'm reminding them that the Fediverse isn't private and there are potential consequences to confessing to specific criminal acts in a public setting.
@EveHasWords I'll also add that regardless of your privacy settings, your RSS feed is fully public on stock Mastodon so the only thing privacy settings really do is prevent direct interactions.
@EveHasWords i love crimes, and no one will ever know how much. it is for everyone’s safety.