*waves at everyone else in this echo chamber, which actually makes it a delightful place for civilized discussion*.
Apparently the fediverse is not a place for people to debate different opinions about technology.
That is untrue. I even saw someone using emacs the other day.
More seriously, if someone wants to set up an instance dedicated to discussions about AI, they can.
If they want to set up an account on someone else's server and toot about AI, they can, assuming that the server rules permit it.
They can share their opinions to their heart's content.
What they cannot do is ensure that anyone else engages with them, boosts them, makes them feel important etc.
I unfollow people who post about vibe coding / slop / AI, and mute or block if needed.
I'm a lawyer.
I was due to be replaced by AI ages ago.
If we have to have AI cranks online, I'd prefer this type 😉
Oh, absolutely. I wonder how many copies of books about the end of lawyers were sold to lawyers...
@neil this is a tricky one; I'm aware I occasionally toot about AI things, often critical but not in the more traditional, puritanical fediverse manner. The fact you can (I think!) still see me suggests I manage to keep it to replies or at an acceptable level, but I'm aware I sail close to the wind.
I am aware I self-censor around it, because of the general mood; I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not.
Perhaps I should make sure to CW such things? 🤔
@neil yes, I think the fanatical praise of what is, to be charitable, a pretty flawed tool with limited scope, is deeply annoying - especially as the ones with such toots are rarely open to other opinions.
I find it remarkable that people don't comprehend that "I vibe coded this" reads exactly the same as "I copy-pasted this from a random StackOverflow post" :)
RE: https://mastodon.social/@MozillaAI/116279201448628866
@neil I believe Scott's point was about vocal purity testing rather than anything specifically about AI though. I agree your method of handling unwanted content in your feed is perfectly fine - but as can be seen in the comments to this post that's not what it's about.
https://swecyb.com/@MozillaAI@mastodon.social/116279201479419853
> it's perhaps bullying to tell other people what to write about, as long as they follow the conventions
Not sure I follow - I've explicitly said that people can write about whatever they like, as long as it is consistent with their server's rules?
> you're suggesting that should be on a server dedicated to it; then talking about blocking or muting people who talk about one thing you dislike.
No, again: I said one *can* do that, or that one can use an account on an existing server. The same options that exist for everyone.
I'm sorry, but it feels like you reading what you want to read into what I said, rather than reading what I actually said.
But, to be absolutely clear, if someone does not want to see someone tooting about Linux and Free software, or about Airsoft, or about legal stuff, or bad jokes, or whatever else I toot which they dislike, be it the majority of what I toot or just for one single toot, they are absolutely free to unfollow me, mute me, or block me. That is their prerogative.
Well, there is that...
But I don't take blocks personally, but rather an indication of someone setting their boundaries, which is just fine :)
@penguin42 He's not telling other people what to write about. He's telling people what he'll bother to read. Very different thing.
'I unfollow people who post about vibe coding / slop / AI, and mute or block if needed'.
Hmm. While I don't post purely about AI, I do have a blog post sitting in 'Drafts' about my personal, real-life experiences with Claude and Copilot.
I was (am) pretty sceptical but take the view that I can not simply and mindlessly dismiss all AI as 'AI slop'.
Would this meet your criteria for un-following?
I guess the thought of interacting only with AI guys is depressing even for AI guys.
*Claude has entered the chat*
@neil *waves back*
I read the comments for a few minutes, I knew quite quickly it was not worth the mental energy
To me the Fediverse is a village pub in the middle of nowhere, a place where it is quiet but everyone can hang out and be civil, and I like it that way. If my specific local isn't for me, I can just move to a different pub in a different village and enjoy that pub instead
If you want to be in the big city with big city attention, go for it. I'm just going to enjoy living in a village, different social media for different kinds of people
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P.S. not good to have to explain a joke, but felt it may be needed xkcd 2501
@nblr Yep.
I appreciate that, for some communities, design decisions, and a prevailing tech culture, might be off putting. And that is a shame and we should fix it.
But that doesn't apply here.
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