Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

@randahl I used to be responsible for the IMEI databasevat Ericsson once. It was 20 years ago. I thought they have stopped using it? Ineed to check that.
@randahl just wondering. What is in the databases of the ultrarich behind the Trump regime? It would not surprise me that IMEI is already stored in commercial databases. And that regime doesn’t bother with legal ways to obtain information. They just “buy” it with taxpayers dollars…
@cejjacobs @randahl I was also wondering something similar. I visited another country where my IMEI was noted (probably with my name) during a random police check. I didn't think anything of it. Also AFAIK Dual-SIM phones have two IMEI, so I wonder which one they got :D
@randahl it's just a low tech version of what the NSA does
@Ex_spurt @randahl Yeah, this. Though it's interesting to see it happening in meat space, instead of virtually through telco sharing.

@randahl
We don't need to do this, because unless you are using a prepaid SIM - and never had a subscription SIM in the same phone, Danish and European authorities already have that information.

Did you notice how getting a prepaid SIM became a lot harder a few years ago? I used to have a prepaid SIM that I paid 99,- for per year, and now I'm paying 79,- per month for pretty much the same use, simply because prepaid became too cumbersome.

Russia presumably have a lot more people using prepaid SIMs, so they can't get the information via the phone company.

@leeloo @randahl 79 Eur per month seems insanely expensive.

Edit: My bad, i'm guessing it's DKK not Eur

@leeloo
It's impossible to get anonymous SIMs in the EU. And I doubt that it's possible in Russia.
@randahl
@oneiros they buy their phones and their sims from places like Georgia.
@leeloo
@oneiros o.O gibt's in den Niederlanden keine mehr? Gab's doch bei Albert Heijn direkt an der Kasse
@randahl I had to watch the video to know whether this was about Russia or the United States..
@random_sapiens The US already has all that information along with a decades old mass surveillance programme. They'd only do this for the theatrics.
@Halaana well it's a lot about theatrics lately...
@randahl Yearning for non-datamining
@randahl second largest, after the USA, right? They don't even need to stop you to do this over there.
@krejgo @randahl you know Russia is much bigger than the USA right?

Hey Captain Obvious 👋

You're talking area @ketumbra while I'm talking population - both of the nation and it's prisons (which is one of the few things the USA is still #1 at)

My primary school grasp of geography remains thankfully intact.

And you are lynching Negroes - Wikipedia

@krejgo @ketumbra Also no - America is not #1 in prisons.

Again, stop yourself - there is a video of something happening in Russia. Bringing up any other country only happens to cover up or excuse what you can see clearly in the video.

Good luck out there @jenzi
@krejgo how pathetic that by me asking you to look at the video in front of you and stop pretending you're doing this - what a child you are

@krejgo I mean there's a VIDEO of something happening in Russia and you're like BUT AMERICA LOLOL

Dude, you're sticking up for actual crimes, it's pathetic as shit

@ketumbra @krejgo @randahl depends if you mean population or land area, I suppose.
@randahl this prison has its name already - ГУЛАГ/GULAG.

@randahl indistinguishable footage, the EU are massive hypocrites and secretly jealous of the control Putin can exert on his population

#EUPol #Europe #AgeVerification #ChatControl

@budududuroiu @randahl this is absolutely disgusting, you're gross

@randahl I understand why they do it. But they're on the losing end anyway.

They can either disable the mobile network or otherwise the Ukraine will find a way to control their drones.

The corruption in Russia becomes a huge advantage for it's opponents. If you have the money, there will always be a way.

From what I hear, they tend towards rolling back mobile internet. So that country will become even more of a hellhole.

@randahl Can't say I feel bad for them with what they have been doing to Ukraine for years now.
@scottytrees @randahl The people being searched likely have nothing to do with what's going on in Ukraine.

@randahl
A very perceptive comment: “This [Ruzzia] is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.”

#Russia # Ruzzia #RussiaIsAPrison #gulag

@randahl wouldn't they already be able to access this info?Assuming people mostly get phones on a contract and not buying phones with cash.

@inpc @randahl Even if you buy with cash you (in most cases) end up 'using' the phone like a normal person; which builds out a combination of location data and contact activity.

Especially with a massive sino-russian border I don't doubt that someone who really cared could make two 'clean' phones and some anonymous IoT SIMs fall off the back of a truck, one to stay with the bomb and one to detonate it with; but users like that aren't getting their phones checked by random street cops.

@randahl Putin is frightened and is hunkering down
@randahl, who cares what happens to orcs?

@rudolfsciemins @randahl

i have 100s of comments hating on the govt of russia, putin, the kremlin

but i'm careful not to demonize regular russians, because yes, while many of them are loser assholes who support the stupid ethnofascist war on ukraine, many are not

and thus, not as some high minded moral principle, but simply as a matter of good tactics and strategy, we don't demonize all russians, simply because if putin is to be overthrown, it will be regular russians doing it

@benroyce @rudolfsciemins @randahl First, deal with your dictator, who wants to destroy the whole world, and then give advice to everyone else.

@kvilkidi @rudolfsciemins @randahl

oh hey timur, thanks for that gatekeeping

so i'll talk about whatever the fuck i want to talk about

i'll use this comment here for example to tell gatekeeping shitbags to shut the fuck up and trip on their front steps and wind up the hospital

💋

@benroyce @kvilkidi instead of giving each other a hard time, let's all agree that both Trump and Putin belongs in prison.

@rudolfsciemins

@randahl @benroyce, they had opportunity to make normal life for most of the people for one generation in history of their nation. What did they do with it - started wars.
They have lost 1M+ and they are fine with that. If they wanted to change government, they would have done that with less casualties.
So.. Don't humanise orcs till their society changes the same way German did.

@rudolfsciemins @randahl

are you latvian?

i just saw the tld on your profile name

in which case, i have to apologize to you

i give poles, lithuanians, estonians, latvians, ukrainians, etc all the leeway in the world to be as russophobic as they want. you are entitled to that

again, apologies, i didn't know where you were from

@benroyce @rudolfsciemins @randahl Technically, phobia is "irrational, unrealistic, persistent and excessive" fear, but that might be too pedantic in this context :)

@randahl

Seems incongruous to decry police-state behavior in a police-state with your face visible. Video looks real but, I wonder.

I can definitely see something like this coming to the USA.

@jchaven @randahl I love how many of you are giving cover...
@randahl Has been for over a hundred years. Putin just managed to make it even worse.
@randahl Are you sure the IMEI can tell them what the phone is doing on the internet? I've never heard that before, and I just looked it up and it doesn't seem to be true. All it can tell them is the phone's location.

@mikelovesbikes I should be more precise: In Russia, they have an extreme internet surveillance system already, which monitors all internet activity. By manually fetching the IMEI from people, I suspect they can now guarntee a connection between the surveillance information and the device owner. So instead of knowing that SOMEONE visited a site sympathetic to Ukraine, they now know WHO did.

Does that make sense?

@randahl
It's only a different way than in other countries. It happens everywhere.
So nothing new or surprising.

@randahl the f**k is that? I meant the police or whatever doing that, not the number.

In 🇺🇸 the IT companies inform the government, for a fee.

The whole world is 1984. Idk which country/government is absolutely free for being monitored. 🇩🇪? 🇫🇷?

@epistomai Not Denmark, I know that much. We have cameras in the cities and it is illegal to cover your face. Dystopian.
@randahl @epistomai In many parts of the US it used to be illegal to wear a mask in public. Some were meant to combat groups like the Ku Klux Klan. Others to make it illegal to go into a bank wearing a mask. Covid and ICE certainly created a whole new issue over masks.
@randahl @epistomai
How does that suit with the law about owning your (digital?) appearance/voice?
I thought no one is allowed to use it without your consent?
Or am i confusing something there?
@randahl Серьёзно? Наверное я живу в параллельной вселенной, где ничего подобного не происходит. Но зато в моей вселенной в мирных русских городах гибнут мирные люди от оружия, которое поставляет НАТО террористам. И эта кровь вопиет к небу.

@hakudzero Did Ukraine invade Russia in February 2022, or did Russia invade Ukraine?

Once you get that right, you know who the terrorists are.

@randahl поэтому можно убивать мирных жителей? Бить по домам, школам, отдельным людям? Это звучит странно.
@hakudzero @randahl NATO weapons aren't killing anyone in Russian cities. This is a lie.

@hakudzero @randahl

Украинцы осторожно уничтожают нефтеперерабатывающие заводы

в то время как русские осторожно бомбят многоквартирные дома, больницы и школы

в войне, которую начала Россия, ради этнофашистского империализма, геноцида и массовых убийств

ты лжец или идиот

@benroyce @randahl Осторожно? Ты сам лжешь. Они бьют по гражданским мирным целям и убивают мирных людей каждый день. Это огромная боль, а таккие как ты не хотят этого видеть и просто закрывают глаза в угоду идеологии.