As far as I'm concerned, you have three options:

1. Not watch the new Harry Potter.

2. Watch the new Harry Potter but shut up about it.

3. Admit to watching the new Harry Potter and be judged.

There is no fourth option. I think you should do number 1, but you're a grownup and I don't have access to your router, so it's not up to me. But understand that if you do watch it, you need to either shut the hell up or brace yourself. Because I am not here to make you feel ok about it.

None of the above should be taken to mean I think it's ok to "secretly" watch the new Harry Potter series.

What I am saying is that should you decide to materially support anti-trans causes by watching the new Harry Potter series, you should not bother trying to make a case for why it's all right to do so.
@maxleibman I believe nobody should watch it, even though people whom I considered to be some of my favorite actors in the past are in it. They are dead to me now. 😡

@maxleibman

Every people promoting this stuff will be reported and blocked on my side.

@maxleibman
> There is no fourth option

The fourth option are all the people who don't even know there is a new one. Like me, until just now.

@notyourfanboy Not knowing about it falls under not watching it.

@notyourfanboy @maxleibman

The whole argument reminds me a lot of my childhood.

Something about how having heard of the Christian God but refusing to be baptized meant going to Hell. But if you haven't heard of CGod, you get to go to Heaven (ofc ymmv).

Was always baffled what kind of an asshole would thus go to evangelise: you know you're not going to end every elevator pitch with a sale, so what you're actually doing is sending people to Down Under.

@iju @maxleibman
> But if you haven't heard of CGod, you get to go to Heaven

I thought if you never heard you go to hell?

@notyourfanboy @maxleibman

In this reading is Heaven, as it sure would be cruel to uncontacted tribes and whatever otherwise.

@maxleibman fourth option is to sail the seas so you don’t support a horrible person financially. I’ll be doing option one personally because HP is overrated.
@maxleibman @JustaJason007 I’ve never been interested in them, and JK Obsessed with other people’s genitalia can fuck off. Here endeth the lesson.
@maxleibman
I don't get the mindset that says it should be ok to participate in the persecution of others, but if you get criticized for doing so, somehow that is unfair.
@maxleibman
Apologies for crudeness, Max, but both Harry Potter and his author are dead to me.
@maxleibman Since I haven't watched any of them, number 1 is the natural course.

@maxleibman

"You should do #1" seems quite appropriate. 😁

@maxleibman As a retired librarian, I’ve purged Harry Potter from my life, but Rowling’s actions break my heart because there are so many adults who grew up with his character and discovered a lifelong love of reading because of her books. What a lousy human.

@maxleibman "It's ok, I will be pirating it"
No, is really not. You're still giving your attention to a terf product, which will probably make you buy some merchandise sooner or later.

I know it sucks, but just delete it from your mind.

@Johns_priv @maxleibman

(You can pirate the merchandise, too.)

@iju
And then use it in public, thus promoting the TERF... 😡
@Johns_priv @maxleibman

@zipkid @Johns_priv @maxleibman

Well, depends on the merchandise, I suppose?

But I'd say if you're old enough to have a credit card (for HBO Max), or engage in piracy, you are probably also old enough to not need pencils for school etc.

That being said, I'm personally not much into purity tests, and generally don't bother people who write fanfiction, commit piracy, participate in larps with the serial filed off, etc.

@iju @zipkid @maxleibman You don't have kids I guess...
'Dad, dad, I want this!!' or maybe they love it so much you just want them to have it so they are happy; the amount of Bluey merchandise my 3 y.o. has would surprise a 5 years ago version of me.
@Johns_priv
2 of me & ex
2 my wife & ex
I know what this is about...
@iju @maxleibman
@zipkid So you understand, less exposure to a product=less chances to be buying merchandise ^_^
@Johns_priv I think that is what i was getting at....

@Johns_priv @zipkid @maxleibman

In addition to assuming I don't have kids, you're also assuming I have a tv, and that I would like to watch the show where someone could see me.

This has such a many ifs that (with all respect) I don't think I need to engage with it further:)

@iju
I suppose the reason we would engage with you, and ‘assume’ things, may be relatd to the fact you engaged with this post about things in theaters and on tv, aimed at children…
@Johns_priv @maxleibman

@zipkid @Johns_priv @maxleibman

I would assume this thread was about the upcoming streaming show, which just got its first trailer.

And the target group for any Harry Potter franchise subject (and related stories with serials filed off) at this point is at least secondarily millennials such as I trying to recapture our youth.

@iju
It’s all good. We can talk as little or as much as we want 😉
@Johns_priv @maxleibman
@iju @zipkid @maxleibman I assumed as much, unfortunately some authors don't understand that their politics make us stop giving them money, and in this case, she went overboard on her hatred.
An absolute despicable person, it really doesn't matter how good or influential was her work.. it's tainted now.

@Johns_priv @zipkid @maxleibman

I mean, yes.

The problem is that if you have enough unpopular political stances (as I do), and exposition to Internet, you don't really get any entertainment without doing some really fine demarcation on what's moral and what's not.

For example: anything made or owned by Disney, directly or otherwise. Any legal or real person who's funded US Republicans. What companies are still operating in Russia and Israel. Warner for pushing JKR. And so on.

@iju
All very true. It’s shit. We all need to make choices, and many don’t have a good option. 😭
@Johns_priv @maxleibman
@iju @zipkid @maxleibman Yeah but there are things and THINGS.
I can rewatch Stargate or the Expanse without my intestine fighting to throw up. I can even try to enjoy Ender books even though the author sucks.
Neil Gaimann and JKR books are dead to me.
@Johns_priv
There is always Pratchett…
@iju @maxleibman

@zipkid @iju @maxleibman 100% agree. The 'problem' is that I have all books in English and my three year old just has enough with catalan and Spanish xD
Oh well! I will have to buy them in catalan/Spanish as well!! ^_^

#Gnu #Terrypratchett

@Johns_priv @zipkid @maxleibman

Translations of Pratchett's books may be somewhat loaded dice, though. He wasn't very forgiving with his references, jokes and language plays.

@Johns_priv @maxleibman By bragging about pirating it here, they're moving from #2 to #3
@maxleibman Everyone who watches the new Harry Potter is a transphobe. It couldn’t be simpler than that.
@AccordingtoWouter @maxleibman The whole Harry Potter universe has always been conservative, I don't quite understand why so many people suddenly wake up and go "oh my God, this is so uncool".
@maxleibman I'll watch with my son but with pirated file 😁
@maxleibman watch Harry Potter through a not so leagal stream ...... Oops did k just write that?

@the_drifter @maxleibman

She still goes on social media and trumpets HP interest, via fandom et al, as proof you support her. She has been very open about that. So you can pirate if you want, but she'll still use that as part of her anti trans campaign and as proof that she has support, and you deserve to be fucking judged for doing that!

It is not just the money to her, or trans people.

@CrypticMirror @maxleibman
Sorry, i do not get that. Why should i be judged for maybe watching (- if i find it - and actually going to do it anyhow) it? It wont pop up on any stats like a viewing count? Is the movie itself transphobe?

@CrypticMirror @the_drifter @maxleibman

That argument is so poor that she must feel really bad for having to have expressed it.

@maxleibman i'm suggesting a 4th - download it via a torrent and watch it, kill their revenue but enjoy the content as well ;)

@mahadevank @maxleibman

At this point high seas may well be an option for watching, but certainly not for enjoying. There are too many intruding thoughts for anything but academic interest, I would think.

@maxleibman
And if you choose to watch it, just don't give any money to jk_rowling.
So pirate, pirate, pirate. That's the least you can do.

@maxleibman

A pox on the entire Harry Potter franchise.

@maxleibman We're refusing to even watch the ads for it. Bezos is funding so much damage
@Chrisblue Bezos is also a problem, but this one is Warner Bros. (HBO MAX). Which is soon to be owned by the Ellisons (also doing a lot of damage).
@maxleibman Sorry to get my oligarchs mixed up
@Chrisblue Too many to keep straight!
@maxleibman haha at least one thing I am out of... never read the books, never watched any movies, have zero biz with that woman ✔️