I'm still often kinda stunned by the people in this market and this world who say they urgently want A) a cybersecurity job or B) to emigrate

And I directly offer to to help them by offering my calendar for the next month,
for free, no strings

And they're just like, nah, that time isn't convenient

I mean yo - you can go pay a person $500/hr for advice if you want and they'll have like a 80% chance of being a pyramid scheme or a charlatan, but they'll definitely meet at a time you want.

If you can't meet one single, totally free 30 minute online meeting in either the early morning or late evening across a whole month, and you want to get into cybersecurity in 2026, or immigrate to another country

no, you don't

There's really no like "what if they're a parent" or "what if they're short on money" here. There just isn't. I have a variety of times open every Friday - Sunday, every week. And they're open 45 days ahead.
@hacks4pancakes That does sound very strange...
@DamonHD Repeatedly. I mean, I have Questions at this point. People desperate to break into the field or bleeding envy I was able to move to another country and I -offer to help- them, no strings and the thought of that much work makes them stop.

@hacks4pancakes What do you think is actually going on?

Confused? Anxious? Executive Dysfunction? Unrealistic? Bone idle?
(I'm NOT confusing ND with idleness in my internal ontology here, but I wonder if either might be contributing...)

@hacks4pancakes @DamonHD Foe emigration at least, I can imagine myself saying “oh I’m so jealous, I would LOVE to do that” when the truth is there are internal or external reasons why I wouldn’t/couldn’t and someone offering to help me with the logistics wouldn’t change that so I politely decline.
@darryl @hacks4pancakes The grown-up way to politely decline would be "I got ahead of myself: I cannot do that for other reasons much as I'd like to", not brushing it off as a diary issue!
@hacks4pancakes @DamonHD just accept that not everyone is willing to do what is necessary. GenX pretty much grew up having to figure it out. That comes with negatives, but resilience is one of the better facets.
@mweiss @hacks4pancakes @DamonHD xennials too - aside from the workaholic tendencies it's one of our better traits probably.

@hacks4pancakes @DamonHD I forgot what the term is, but it's a normal psychological thing where not paying for it makes it feel like it's not valuable so they treat it (and you) as such. That intrinsic motivation isn't there without feeling like they are losing something.

Similar reason a bunch of us couldn't be bothered to get good grades I think.

If you want to do it from kindness, charge something if they miss a meeting maybe.

@Netux @DamonHD honestly we have so few jobs for so many people now I don't mind if some people just give up. But it's sad.
@hacks4pancakes @DamonHD I'm looking at it as respect for your time. Giving up is fine, but be honest and let you know so you aren't wasting your time waiting on them just for them not to show up.
@hacks4pancakes it blows me away too because the 1 session I had with you a number of years ago did help quite a bit. You (with the help of a few others later) did an excellent job with that 30 minutes!
@winterknight1337 Super glad to hear. I've gotten to work with a lot of great people!
@hacks4pancakes yeah! Took a while to get your advice into results but it helped!
@hacks4pancakes sounds like me desperately wanting to learn piano. Motivation stopped when I had to make a phone call to the teacher. Yet I still want to learn piano.

Gosh you mean I have to make an effort? Ugh. What next?

@hacks4pancakes I've met a lot of people who claim to be jealous of the travel I've done that could have done the same if they'd prioritised it like I did.

It's unfortunate that they waste your time while working through their feelings.

@cford @hacks4pancakes it's easy to see greener grass on the other side of the fence when you don't see the full picture.

Lots of travel is interesting. It also creates its own unique flavor of loneliness, even when you know people in all of those locations. It's destabilizing. It's exhausting in its own way.

In case it wasn't obvious, I'm speaking from personal experience.

@mweiss @hacks4pancakes Totally. I emigrated 17 years ago and this has been my experience too.
@hacks4pancakes They are not serious.

@hacks4pancakes I am going to use this as a template, too, for how management acts when they say "We take #infosec and #privacy seriously", and then shunt proposed meetings wayyy into the hazy future. With their underlings, 2-3 levels down and no mandates.

(One weird difference though: they still *pay* me. Go figure.)

@hacks4pancakes

To play devil's advocate: a few times, I've broken off negotiations with potential employers (even ones in whose operations I was very interested) because they insisted on migrating the discussion from an asynchronous format (e-mail) to a synchronous format (voice call), and I was concerned that meant either they wanted to bounce me into agreeing in the heat of the moment to something disagreeable, or they wanted deniability for things they might promise.

@hacks4pancakes what a missed opportunity
@hacks4pancakes I would like both, or some kind of "I can fuck with Docker" job, but NZ's job market is somewhere between "nope" and "hahahahahaa fucking forget about it"
@freya still happy to chat and my calendar is very convenient for NZ time

@hacks4pancakes awawawawawawawawawa that would be very nice yes please.... I do not know how to get myself out of this void of:

* no job experience
* nothing publishable to put on a CV
* in a country where jobs require knowing "the right people" in advance

@freya not to be cliche but link is in bio ^^

@hacks4pancakes

Thank you for offering to help people!

I was very lucky to have the stars all align to make my emigration as easy as humanly possible (one of us already had citizenship, job waiting on the other end, etc), and even then it was about $7000 in lawyer fees and almost a year of planning.

I cannot even imagine how valuable what you're offering for free is.

@ojensen I don't pretend to be a registered agent or anything but I know enough about a few national systems to be dangerous and ... I'm free.
@hacks4pancakes turns out that getting into a new industry or changing countries or both, might require slight discomfort. Who knew?
@kalfeher @hacks4pancakes there is a german saying. "Wasch mich, aber mach mich nicht nass."

@kalfeher
Different laws, different language, different social norms? Nah, THEY'RE wrong, not me!

@hacks4pancakes

@xinit @hacks4pancakes It's the difference between day dreaming about a change and taking steps to make it happen.

@kalfeher
We see people arrive here and leave inside six months. It can be hard, for sure. It takes planning and support in most cases.

I think its a bit like people who want to be an author, living the glamorous author life and all. Though, they don't want to write.

@hacks4pancakes

@hacks4pancakes people like the *idea* of emigrating and/or having a cybersecurity job, but don’t actually want the reality of it. Happens in every sexy/popular field.

@hacks4pancakes these are the same people who log on to the work slack, in the channel “software-users” with an FAQ link about how to download the software, and a bot who sends you the FAQ when you join the channel, then ask:

Where do I get the software?

@hacks4pancakes I don’t think it is laziness.
I think that people who know rationally that moving might be the only sensible idea, could be plain terrified of it. Homesickness, even on short trips. Needing family and closeness. Feeling that roots will be lost.
In terrible circumstances, some will flee early, most will flee unwillingly, and won’t abandon their region/country, some will stay put and say that leaving will kill them too.
I inherited the moving streak, but I understand others.
@hacks4pancakes For starters, anyone that would not want to engage with you about career advice or work is insane.... that said, I FINALLY immigrated back to the UK from the US recently. My biggest challenge is finding work in my field (network security engineer) in this location. whew... The closest I can find is a 40 minute drive to the office... because no one wants remote workers anymore. What a pain in the butt

@hacks4pancakes

Would you so happen to be offering these 30 minute sessions still 

@hacks4pancakes
Never mind I found the link 🙂‍↕️