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Schwim DandyThe world has enough “what’s your reaction?” content. No need to poll the internet, just make a decision and move on with your life.
Sundray
Yliasterbut how else am I going to make thousands of people incessantly angry at a strawman if I don’t make them think I haven’t made it up?
THINK OF THE CLICKS! THE CLIIICKS! (to the tune of “She takes premium, dude”)
Can’t tell if the boss’ reply is AI text or just kool-aid drunk businessman.
Does that even count as a disguise? Either way was pretty dang sexist.
absolutely written by AI. I can even guess the prompt
Do the minimum and go around the office socializing. If they complain, show them the email and tell them you’re working on the metrics they care about the most.
Did everyone clap, too?
I just don’t believe a boss would commit to writing “your output is higher and better but I like Tad’s vibe better.”
Just begging for a visit from HR.
Yeah, this feels like bullshit.
ScrubblesYeah, don’t believe this at all. Reads like some dream sequence someone had. Even the dumbest managers wouldn’t say something this stupid, they all know this is a trip right to HR.
Consider yourself lucky then.
I have absolutely met managers this dumb. I had a manager quote me in an email reply, with what was quoted in the same email chain and included with the other replies, then forward it (still including all the replies!) claiming that he “rescued” me from a client incident because I didnt reply.
With the reply from me just two emails below.
Yes, there are absolute idiots in management who would 100% reply with this.
Miles O'BrienI have had managers send me emails telling me to ignore warehouse safety standards set by OSHA, regardless of what the warehouse personnel tell me when I’m there for the day.
Also had managers that recorded themselves breaking company safety rules and post to social media.
I’ve even had one manager that straight up pointed a gun at me in front of 3 cameras thinking it was a funny joking thing.
Never assume management has a single brain cell, let alone enough to realize when something probably shouldn’t be done or said.
TheLowestStoneEven the dumbest managers
You’re overestimating people.
bearboiblakeI’ve been a union rep for a good few years and honestly you wouldn’t believe the shit I’ve seen managers put in writing. “It is company policy to commit crimes here” levels of brazenly breaking the law, especially for stuff like disability discrimination. I can 100% believe this.
lol first time reasing the oponions of morons?
I want some oponions. Regular onions aren’t doing it for me anymore.
CarbonIceDragonThese days there’s the possibly that a manager might just use an AI for response and not consider the implications if the tone looks professional at a glance, perhaps. There’s something that feels AI-ish about it anyway, but that could simply be the corporate “professional” writing style I suppose.
I don’t believe this but you can absolutely fire someone for vibes.
Your attitude does affect team members. I’d happily fire a high out put team member for being an ass.
Nope. It’s a spectrum, but at some point “vibes” absolutely matter.
Is there anything actually illegal happening here?
That sounds like a bit of a jump to conclusions
From https://www.wikihow.com/Quiet-Quit#How-to-Quiet-Quit-Your-Job-.28Without-Getting-Fired.29)
How to Quiet Quit Your Job (Without Getting Fired) - Step 1 Stop doing any tasks that aren’t in your job description. - Step 2 Stop showing up early to work and only arrive on time. - Step 3 Stop staying late in the office and leave on time. - Step 4 Refuse office communications outside of working hours. - Step 5 Don’t take work home with you. - Step 6 Don’t attend non-mandatory meetings or social work functions.
My opinion, only quit if you a) can do those things and b) want to extract value aside from money during the time you spend working.
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🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 If I quit, and the boss man is like “you can’t quit, you’re fired!” I’d be like “woohoo! unemployment!” which I wasnt gonna get by quitting.
Edit: I missed the quiet part. Still gonna leave this here tho.
In the Netherlands and most of Europe i suppose you’re better off being if you get fired, but if you get fired because you’re a shitty employee you can get cut on your initial compensation. But especially if you’ve worked somewhere for a long time you could get a multiple months of pay.
Feels like the scene from The Other Guys about how you’re valuable for doing the work we don’t want to
You could read between the lines and realize your attitude affects the team in a negative way.
Find another job, get a start date, call out first day of new job, if you like new job quit old next morning. They don’t deserve any notice. Simple.
thisbenzingringthat reply is all you need, time to start looking for something else
This feels fake. I could be wrong and hope I am.
No manager competent enough to write that well is going to put anything like that down in writing. Totally fake.
It’s an AI written justification.
Could still be fake, but there are absolutely people that are this stupid and use chatgpt.
grrgyle
A_norny_mousseThat was one of my first thoughts too, but I’m not sure that’s a sign of it being fake.
The whole thing is curious but I’d need more detail to make a confident statement.
Yep. This would never ever be an email. It’ll be a in-person meeting.
Why? It leaves a paper trial, and it’s written too “smart”.
I have broken some HR policies before - real stupid ones (like using the bathroom too much or something ridiculous) and had “the meeting”.
But when I ask them to give me a written version of the issues after the meeting, it’s always vague and points to line items in the handbook.
I worked for an IT manager who fired me after I pointed out that he was scammed for buying a 6 pack 1TB flash drives from Amazon for $40.
He wrote an email saying I was a jerk for delegitimizing his authority which I took to HR and was fired the next day “for not being a good culture fit” and was paid to be under a nondisclosure for half a year.
I am like Mulder, I believe the morons are out there.
It actually sounds like ChatGPT, so…
I can see a situation where that makes sense. A colleague who keeps morale up can be at least as important for the team as one who works hard
Yeah, the manager fucked up by providing too much info and wording it poorly. If it’s “you two have different skills and contribute to the team in different ways” that’s another story. If Marcus is also making sure the rest of the team feels supported and keeps morale high then that is work too! (As someone who often fills the emotional support human role, on top of regular duties, I’m glad that this could be recognized). Productivity is more than work output, and comparison is the thief of joy.
If the person is upset because they feel their workload is too high, or that they aren’t being compensated for their own work, then that’s a different convo they should be having.
Working hard and working effectively are not always the same thing.