The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

Thank you for your support!

Keep Android Open

Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

@fdroidorg @marcprux

I am so sad. I was considering returning to android after a hiatus. But this new direction really makes me hope that true open platforms will be viable for daily use soon.

@koen @fdroidorg @marcprux what alternative do you use?

@fdroidorg @marcprux

Die Website "FDroid" hat ein neues Banner, um die Besucher daran zu erinnern, dass "Google den Kurs nicht geändert hat" und "Android" in weniger als 200 Tagen gesperrt wird.

Datenschutz- und Regulierungsbehörden sind ernsthaft besorgt über Monopole und die zunehmende Machtkonzentration im Technologiesektor – und sie möchten die Stimmen der Betroffenen hören.

Für weitere Infos: https://keepandroidopen.org/de/

https://f-droid.org/de/

Keep Android Open

Befürwortung von Android als kostenlose und offene Plattform für jeden, um Apps zu entwickeln.

@fdroidorg @marcprux
i don't like to downplay f-droid efforts, or spread pessimism.

still, my unfortunate opinion. android starts to be lost cause, too much gooish google in it, like there is apple control in apple devices.

it is not just closed google components, it is android ecosystem and api's in general. alphabet inc controls android too much.

of course, delaying destruction of open android is still beneficial for short term.

@zetabeta
My phone runs Android, my parents' too.
Google is going to prevent us from installing what we want on devices where we had been able to until now.
Devices that we bought and that will still be perfectly functioning 5 years from now.
Hence why this is a fight worth fighting.
@fdroidorg @marcprux
@zetabeta @fdroidorg @marcprux I'm optimistic because competition authorities around the world are paying close attention and trying a wide range of strategies to open up the mobile ecosystems.
@fdroidorg @marcprux I'm already drifting away from android as an everything device. I'm so tired of Google enshitifying what they made and the need to be constantly online. My guess is that I'll have a phone that's just a phone in 5 years. All I need is chat apps like Signal, SMS, calling, and a basic web browser to look the occasional thing up. What I run could be modified android, but it won't be anything close to what Google would want me to run

@fdroidorg @marcprux And while the banner correctly states F-Droid being under threat: it's not just F-Droid, it's the free Android world being under threat. In its entirety. So the same applies to IzzyOnDroid – but also to Obtainium & Co. And if you think you could still use Aurora to access the PlayStore, think again: how would you install Aurora in the first place?

This is the empire striking. The alleged "security" is just a way to circumvent the requirement to open for alternative stores.

@IzzyOnDroid @fdroidorg @marcprux it is really surprising that the @EUCommission is okay with Google locking down our devices, digital sovereignty what-what?
@fdroidorg @marcprux
I did use the means on https://keepandroidopen.org to reach out. However, I am not convinced it will change the course Alphabet/Google set for Android.
Therefore I preordered the new #jollaphone with Sailfish OS and AndroidAppSupport.
Maybe it is time for Linux to shine on mobile as well. May it be #sailfishos, #postmarketos, #ubuntutouch or another Linux mobile OS. And Android emulators like #WayDroid .
Keep Android Open

Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

@Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Android has lost its appeal to me as a target for development. I also may order a Jolla Phone at home point, but I need to be sure that my banking apps work with it.
@m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux You can check from https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/banking-apps-on-sailfish-os/18438/235 if your bank is listed. All my banks work, but that of course don't say anything about your bank
Banking apps on Sailfish OS

Welcome to the forum! Great that first thing you did, is contributing <3

Sailfish OS Forum
@Antti98 @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Thank you! That link helped a lot! 😀
@m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux glad to hear! Out of interest was your bank reported to be working?

@Antti98
Oh thanks for that link! That was my main concern as well. Glad to see my bank works. Though on the practical side I don't really want a new phone just yet 😞

@m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux

@yaarur @m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux It is definitely good to use the old phones as long as feasible, environment thanks! :)

@m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux
quite often banking app requires microg or android compatibility layer. basically android somehow.

sailfishos makes more sense without any android vomit. lack of native apps makes sailfishos unappealing.

consider ungoogled android for critical apps, and leave phone home without sim card. primary separate device for main purposes.

@fdroidorg @marcprux 200 days till lock down. That means about half a year to finish my divorce from Google and find a replacement phone.

Ironically this is the first news lately that has not made me feel horribly behind schedule.

@fdroidorg

Help us @postmarketOS, you're our only hope.

@fdroidorg @marcprux

make a new mobile os without google?

@fdroidorg @murena @gael What will this mean for Murena users?
@kallekn @[email protected] @gael Nothing, all will work fine past September 2026. That being said, Google releases Android code less often each year so issues will creep up...

@fdroidorg As a big fan and user of F-Droid, I'm afraid the writing is on the wall.

As others have said, we can no longer rely on Android being what it needs to be.

A true alternative is required.

@fdroidorg @marcprux

Did Google not change course with their "high friction flow"?

@PVTejas No one saw that flow, so until then, all their posts are PR media control.

@fdroidorg No one *wanted* to see what Google was up to. I.e. autoredirects in G Maps, Youtube playback failures were ramped up to unusability. This is no surprise.

Who actually didn‘t see that was already living inside G-defined boundaries, i.E. having a G account, using Youtube via G-controlled browser, using Maps via G app, …

Remains a mystery to me why people use a OS/browser made by the major advertising predator, known mainly for working against humans.

@fdroidorg @marcprux

Who let this monopoly game go so long?

Tell me your corrupt without telling us all just how effing corrupt you are!

@fdroidorg @marcprux What am I supposed to say they're doing that's illegal when I complain?

"Please exercise powers you don't have to do a thing I know you fully support and instead listen to me, who you don't give two fucks about. I don't even have a dollar to bribe you with."

No, seriously. What do I put in this form? I haven't a clue. There's no point if I can't even attempt to be convincing and I don't know one single thing that would convince anyone of anything here.

@fdroidorg @marcprux I guess it's relevant that I'm in the US and the "regulating agency" here is just one of Trump's goons.
@crazyeddie The top section has a "You, the consumer" text that you could mention to the private person, and one named "You, the state" that puts things into perspective for them as a representative of the people.
@fdroidorg That's actually seriously unhelpful. Cool though. I'll just focus on helping anyone that wants install lineage or something. Screaming directly into a trash can is pointless anyway but if there was actually something I could say that would like suggest a step to take or law that's being broken or something I might have bothered. Clearly there's just bitching about how shit's being ruined and they don't give a shit.
@crazyeddie Is the "United States" section is not enough, we might need some better pointers.

@fdroidorg @crazyeddie

The defunct email addresses in that section are depressing.

@fdroidorg It just sends me to a place where I can report an antitrust claim. Like say google is breaking the law and needs to be investigated.

I don't know what I'd tell them they're doing wrong nor what steps should be taken. I'm especially baffled because we already let Apple do this shit.

I can't just complain about stuff on a crime reporting form. I need to be reporting something.

@fdroidorg @crazyeddie

What @crazyeddie is trying to say: standing up for openness, freedom, and the right to choose your own tools only makes sense in a society where openness, freedom, rights or even rational discourse still have any meaning at all. The US is probably no longer such a society.

@es0mhi @fdroidorg I was really just asking what I should post to the "report a violation" form.

I actually looked on the site some after and there's actually nothing. There's no way for someone in the US to petition anyone about this. Can send to congressmen to try to get it worked out later maybe... :p

The sad fact is there's no law being violated here that I know of. Can't report a violation if there isn't one.

@crazyeddie @fdroidorg

Thank you for the clarification and apologies for my misinterpretation.

I have no idea about the legal situation in the US. But perhaps the fact that you can see no ground for action against this unscrupulousness, shows what we are dealing with: a (capitalist) system that has become completely detached from the true interests of its members, unchallengeable and without alternative

@fdroidorg @marcprux

Aren ’t the government and the EU officials being contacted already?
I would prefer a way to have the opportunity to change the behaviour of what I can and what I can’t do on my phone – like a "free"-"unfree" switch to be easily used on my phone. As I won’t bet that politics is willing to to the job in the next 200 days.

@_RyekDarkener_ It's not only about "your" phone, but of your friends and family too. Note that Google knows PR really well, people already relaxed and forgot about this, as media just repeated the Google texts verbatim.

@fdroidorg

Jep. And to my understanding this is officially a crime in an area where law already exists. I’m no lawyer. But I’m quite confident the case will come to court.
I’m very much struggling with the idea that our politicians do not know what happens.

@_RyekDarkener_ Being blocked on 99% of devices for four years until we win such a court case is not the best path

@fdroidorg

I agree. So – as I said – waiting for politics may be much as waiting for godot.
I would like to have an operating system for my current – and any other – smartphone to be easy installed via otg stick. Like any other computer. A lot of this is already in place. And frankly spoken I don’t think that 95% of the current users care if they can use F-Droid or not. I like F-Droid. But sadly it is elitist currently and not mainstream.

@_RyekDarkener_ We'd like to know, what makes it elitist though? As we are always working on making it easier to use so it achieves mainstream usage.

@fdroidorg

The problem is not on your side. You are doing a tremendous job.
The problem is the majority of users. And their unwillingness to learn and to adapt.

@fdroidorg
What does this mean?
> Uploading evidence of the developer’s private signing key
They mean the public key?
@marcprux
@fdroidorg hey gang, I host @crossed, would anyone from the F-Droid team like to come chat to us about this and why this fundamentally breaks the Android promise?
@jsbilsbrough @fdroidorg I'd be happy to chat. Message or email me and we can set up a time.
@fdroidorg @volla Will VollaOS be affected? And how?
@fdroidorg Maybe a Federated Fone?

@alandvalonline @fdroidorg

I also wish for this. Linux drivers for legacy phone hardware, a Chromebook level of simplicity for installing or running variant UX's, maybe from a removable card or USB stick... A secure OS like Tails... Siloed apps... I don't want corporate access to any data.
..

@fdroidorg

google is an integral part of the security/surveillance state. they're not susceptible to public opinion. hopefully the tech crowd will continue to develop alternatives.