To exist online in 10 years, you're going to have to give a random company a face scan and photo ID and they're going to give that and everything you post to the government to spy on you for being queer, left-wing, "a criminal," or whatever. None of your data or communications will be private. The government and corporations will go through all of it.
If you don't want that to happen, you should raise a stink about "age verification" right now because that's what they're actually building.
Everyone wants to build panopticon.
They're just claiming it's to "protect children" or for "antiterrorism" efforts or immigration screening or whatever bullshit they think you're most likely to swallow.
"AI" is about automating surveillance and if you think "AI" makes mistakes now, wait until it's what the government relies on when heavily armed masked men raid your home in the middle of the night.
Companies know the ad market is dying and never worked well in the first place. Maybe they hope having all your data will make it better. But they know there's always a buyer of last resort willing to pay a premium for your personal information: the government.
Who needs a warrant?
@cwicseolfor @gwynnion don't worry, we'll always* be useful for labor! Especially if we're all desperate, then they can get away with all sorts of abuse and we'll continue working because it's our best chance at staying alive
*As a group. Individually, we'll only be useful for labor until we become "too disabled," which is a surefire thing to happen to any worker who doesn't die tragically young
@raphaelmorgan @gwynnion I actually think they’re working pretty hard to crack as much need for human labor as possible - some things will always be better done by people, but that is a shrinking iceberg when to many of these people “automated slop, and lots of it” is more appealing than excellence. Once the energy crunch is gone, which is mostly a solved issue, it’s cheaper to mechanize most things. Not in our lifetime, but two or three onward.
Of course, we could use that same technological advance to the benefit of all, but that’s just “silly” and “unrealistic” and doesn’t flatter the egos of the would-be god-kings, which is the real issue. They’re long past the point that more money actually transforms their relationship to the world or other people in it - money has an upper ceiling to its utility. But prestige, status, is a zero-sum game, so the most efficient next step is immiserating and impoverishing the majority to stand the taller. And if their fortunes take a paper hit, so what - so long as we, in aggregate, lose more.
@gwynnion in the UK, we have a masquerade of the Online Security Act, and worse, recently, our Prime Minister was trying to get my fellow citizens to sign up to a digital ID card scheme. We avoided that, but #Palantir has wormed its way into our much loved health service whilst supermarkets record us picking up onions
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The epstein class wants their perv snooping panopticon, what could possibly be wrong with that?
When Democrats said two weeks ago that they want to “reform” ICE, that’s when I knew for sure they ARE NOT for the people and cannot be given one iota of trust. In fact, they should be trusted even less because they’ll smile in your face and give lip service to act like your ally, and then do everything opposite of that behind your back. Especially with Schumer in there shilling for Israel, he will do everything to put Israel first, even if that includes throwing Americans under the bus by giving away all our data to them.
@gwynnion I am trying to push them to stool samples.
I figure I might be dead by then, and it will be a gift to the world. 🤣
@lil5 And try to find a way to get back on to usenet…
And consider #reticulum, bc we likely need to build our own network ourselves, local hackers everywhere, nodes connected by any means available, millions of local networks, at least occasionally inter-connected, using store & forward, delay & disruption tolerant protocols
And it's likely a good idea to learn some electronics knowledge and how to solder (incl SMD) and weld … and get a 3d printer while you still can…
Learn how to make a general purpose computer from literal scratch…
Make a computer out of ESP32, Raspberry Pico, etc…
Or find a hacker who can and make them part of your mutual aid network
Join or start a local hacker/maker space
If you want a 3D printer make sure you get it before mandatory file uploading and remote-controlled restriction systems are introduced like they are doing now in Washington and New York
https://reclaimthenet.org/new-york-3d-printer-law-mandates-firearm-file-blocking
https://reclaimthenet.org/new-washington-legislation-makes-3d-printers-surveillance-tools
@lil5 Yeah agree about IRC, I would also add XMPP over tor/i2p
I added Reticulum from a different perspective… more long term, LongNow? Not now exactly …
Given how commercially mediated the internet is there is very little trust it will be available when needed most
Hence, pointing to reticulum as a network stack which could be useful to build an alternative network of networks owned by individuals and communities which is a lot harder to break, stop, censure… it's just a thought
@DLC At this point your throwing protocols over the fence. Most privacy communities are on IRC lets just use that.
I'm talking about replacing Discord, not WhatsApp, where network effects are even more prevalent.
Also running your own IRC server is much easier, than XMPP or Matrix.
China, Iran still has problems blocking access to tor via snowflake.
ln the UK: ID verification is only a legal problem for those attempting to host websites, not those attempting to access them.
@DLC @gwynnion, there has to be some RAM and some local storage. Without RAM, how would data be buffered for sending or for processing after receipt? Without (presumed) non-volatile storage, how would certain often-used items be cached, or how would it be able to have a certain minimum level of functionality (where appropriate) if its network connection should go down for minutes or hours or longer?
I find that the local device, be it in the form of a games console or a workstation or even a pocket-sized distraction device, having no storage of either kind would be wholly impractical, even if it is basically the modern equivalent of a VT102 or whatever.
AND get off the major platforms for all forms of messaging, AND operating systems AND etc
@gwynnion Do you mean to be on the internet period? As in Firefox or Chrome will force you to provide your deets before you can get online? Or that social media companies will do this?
Because I don't see the first scenario happening. Jeff Bezos would lobby against this because it would cost Amazon millions, if not billions, of dollars. And then there are shopping sites like Etsy and Redbubble that would suffer. Netflix would go bankrupt.
And I don't see Mastodon caving in to this nonsense.
@gwynnion
This is already happening without the facscans/ID, but it will get worse.
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