To exist online in 10 years, you're going to have to give a random company a face scan and photo ID and they're going to give that and everything you post to the government to spy on you for being queer, left-wing, "a criminal," or whatever. None of your data or communications will be private. The government and corporations will go through all of it.

If you don't want that to happen, you should raise a stink about "age verification" right now because that's what they're actually building.

@gwynnion

Using IRC over i2p or Tor is how this ends.

Start learning how to use IRC now, so that you can use it over Tor later.

TheLounge or Convos are easy ways to start

#irc #i2p #tor

@lil5 And try to find a way to get back on to usenet…

And consider #reticulum, bc we likely need to build our own network ourselves, local hackers everywhere, nodes connected by any means available, millions of local networks, at least occasionally inter-connected, using store & forward, delay & disruption tolerant protocols

@gwynnion

And it's likely a good idea to learn some electronics knowledge and how to solder (incl SMD) and weld … and get a 3d printer while you still can…

Learn how to make a general purpose computer from literal scratch…

Make a computer out of ESP32, Raspberry Pico, etc…

Or find a hacker who can and make them part of your mutual aid network

Join or start a local hacker/maker space

@DLC

If you want a 3D printer make sure you get it before mandatory file uploading and remote-controlled restriction systems are introduced like they are doing now in Washington and New York

https://reclaimthenet.org/new-york-3d-printer-law-mandates-firearm-file-blocking

https://reclaimthenet.org/new-washington-legislation-makes-3d-printers-surveillance-tools

@DLC @gwynnion

IRC is the more well documented and in use communication tool to my knowledge,

Cool project but very Alpha, nor have I heard of any high profile journalist or espionage using/trusting the network for covert communication.

@lil5 Yeah agree about IRC, I would also add XMPP over tor/i2p

I added Reticulum from a different perspective… more long term, LongNow? Not now exactly …

Given how commercially mediated the internet is there is very little trust it will be available when needed most

Hence, pointing to reticulum as a network stack which could be useful to build an alternative network of networks owned by individuals and communities which is a lot harder to break, stop, censure… it's just a thought

@DLC At this point your throwing protocols over the fence. Most privacy communities are on IRC lets just use that.

I'm talking about replacing Discord, not WhatsApp, where network effects are even more prevalent.

Also running your own IRC server is much easier, than XMPP or Matrix.

@lil5 @DLC I'd like to try something like IRC or XMPP. Which has the biggest population?
@DLC @lil5 I'm building a local net at the moment for private use using RNS and packet radio. I'm also cutting down my usage of the World Wide Web. I feel we need to make technology work more for us rather than being dictated to by big mega corps.
@UrbanCityCowboy Agree, & I'm trying to work towards the same @lil5
@lil5 @gwynnion The usage of Tor or hell, anything non-central will just be criminalized instead. There are already jurisdictions where it is, formally or not.

@navi @gwynnion

China, Iran still has problems blocking access to tor via snowflake.

ln the UK: ID verification is only a legal problem for those attempting to host websites, not those attempting to access them.

https://tporu.gitlab.io/support/censorship/

Censorship | Tor Project | Support

Defend yourself against tracking and surveillance. Circumvent censorship. | Censorship

@lil5 @navi @gwynnion that they can't effectively block it doesn't stop them calling you an enemy of the state for using it.

@zbrown @navi @gwynnion

Thats why people need to start using IRC now instead of us quabling about which protocol to use later.