wakest likes your bugs ⁂First talk today at the Social Web Devroom we have @pfefferle talking about the state of WordPress's fediverse integration
#FOSDEM #ActivityPub #fedidev
#FOSDEM #ActivityPub #fedidev
Excited to see WordPress still using the @FediverseSymbol throughout the interface
@andypiper: "mastodon is part of a movement" "it is part of the fediverse"
@haubles just dropped the massive news that Mastodon is going to be changing the default signup flow on mobile apps to choose an instance thats geographically close to you instead of choosing mastodon.social by default!
UPDATE: their official announcement here: https://mastodon.social/@Mastodon/115989801184595302
the internet went down and then I went to get a coffee with @douginamug! Just got back and caught the end of @bjoernsta's talk about https://savesocial.eu
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@evanprodromou is up next talking about Tags.pub #HashTagsAreGreat
And now @cypherhippie has a lightning talk about bringing #DIDs to the fediverse
A slide of @snarfed.org agreeing with the premise of bringing DIDs to the fediverse
Core Assumptions
1) "Communities must be in control"
2) "Nobody shall be locked-in"
3) "There is NO FREE marketplace of ideas."
1) "Communities must be in control"
2) "Nobody shall be locked-in"
3) "There is NO FREE marketplace of ideas."
Next we have @django presenting some ideas about moving the ActivityPub API C2S forward
Oh hell yeah looks like @django used my https://iconography.fediverse.info for their slides!
After a short break we have @raffomania is presenting a new federated bookmark sharing software called 'ties'
https://github.com/raffomania/ties
https://github.com/raffomania/ties
Oh @raffomania wants to do full text search of an archived version of websites from 'ties'
all the orgs that signed the "open networks and democratic public spheres" alience
Oh cool and also @raccoonforfriendicaapp and #Flohra are also under their umbrella
@tsyesika is talking about issues with naming and fishing and has a slide up with a fake @Gargron account
They are talking about what the fediverse would look like if we were using more generic servers
@FediVariety up next about getting public agencies to use the fediverse
Taking a tiny break to get some fresh air and then ruin the freshness with a cigarette and then back to my regularly scheduled programming. @andypiper has awarded me "official love blog status" so now my duty has peerpressure!
Had a longer break then I meant to opps!
Kevin Marks@KevinMarks @tsyesika that doesn't help in this case unless that information is used and visualized in places like name autocomplete and weighting of search results. Also it requires everyone to have a website or place that they own which is only the case for tech and larger personalities
Uriel Fanelli@liaizon I can see an open source solution already exist for each issue, why groups don't talk each other's?
@uriel there isnt an implementation of any protocol that has all these properties, which is one reason why Christine has been working on Spritely Goblins this whole time
@liaizon There are—and more than one. Never heard of RetroShare? Instead of declarative sentences like "there is no," why not say "I am not aware of any"?
Yet you've answered my question: you don't exchange knowledge because you think you know everything.
@uriel this is a talk about these properties *for* the fediverse. Retroshare is not being made for global public communication or many of the things that we use the fediverse for. I don't think Retroshare would want people to try to shoehorn the project into use for the sorts of things that Spritely is being built for
Not quite.
ActivityPub doesn’t prescribe a specific transport layer for delivering its activities. In practice, most deployments use HTTPS today, but in principle the transport could be swapped for something else—anything from SIP to SMTP to libp2p.
So there would be no inherent obstacle if an implementation chose to use Bitmessage (the protocol behind retroshare) as its transport.
You’re not seeing many alternatives largely because you’re assuming that what you haven’t encountered simply doesn’t exist.
Lucy@liaizon as I posted already publicly I'm bothered by the fact they went for AI slop rather than pulling the actual memes, in a community where this is very frowned upon 
@lucent yeah I noticed that in their slides too :(
Oblomov@liaizon yeah they're the brandjacking champions of the Fediverse, and they censor and block anyone mentioning this.
Relevant links:
https://qua.name/diorama/software-identity-predatory-strategies-fediverse
https://qua.name/diorama/astroturfing-the-italophone-fediverse
https://qua.name/diorama/accusations-by-mastodonuno-will-not-stop-freedom-of-information
Fedimedia Italia APS ⁂@liaizon Not all of them are instances; we actually have “only” 18 instances.
Fedi Fox
Julian Fietkau@liaizon Having a small world moment recognizing @raffomania from my time in Hamburg, where we had some overlapping years at the university's computer science campus and apparently exchanged a couple of emails. Not sure if we ever met face to face. Cool project! 🙂
@julian @raffomania oh I love that connection!
Rafael@raffomania Likewise! 😀 I'm up to my neck in teaching and organizational work for the day job this winter, but I'm hoping to make progress on @encyclia again in the warmer months.
Wess Daniels@liaizon @raffomania Oh, would totally love this when it requires a little less tech know how.
@raffomania @liaizon I'm also not opposed to learning how to do it if there's some good walkthroughs for less techie folks. I've dabbled a little in hosting (mostly websites) but love to learn more when I can. I like the idea of self-hosting. I was a LONG-TIME delicious user and lost all those links when the service went away.
I am also unfamiliar with coolify or pikapods so will check that out.
@wess @liaizon Setting up a homelab / self-hosting things is a great adventure. The self-hosting community on here, lemmy and reddit is super active, and there are lots of resources. To get started, I'd recommend setting up something in a local network (e.g. behind your router at home) so you can learn in peace without worrying about security.
@raffomania @liaizon Awesome! Thanks for the suggestion.
marius
django@mariusor I apologize, this visual slide was a last minute addition and couldn’t find the icon, but I did mention FedBox!
@mariusor the irony here is that aside from FebBox, I’ve only tested my app with Pleroma, Friendica and Bonfire the others likely have no oauth capabilities!
@mariusor fyi, here is my interop tracking page https://github.com/mediaformat/c2s
Eugen Rochko@liaizon Indeed, that’s me.
infinite love ⴳ@liaizon "barebones" i'll grant, but the idea of "no notifications" is funny because the inbox is all notifications. a separate "home feed" would ideally be an, uh... separate feed. in many cases you can construct one based on the notifications you receive in your inbox! that doesn't seem to be what mastodon is going for, though, so it's no wonder they weren't keen on using it (i.e. different goals)
@liaizon what is needed for a social platform is an entire suite of apis, not just one endpoint.
@liaizon and @Gargron is wrong... I'd say "as usually" but that'd just be mean.
Email clients have been built into rich messaging platforms despite resting on a much more barebones base vocabulary in comparison to ActivityStreams.
What Gagron did was show a severe lack of imagination, and thusly condemn a passable interface to an obscurity that some of us have been trying to overcome ever since...
rag. Gustavino Bevilacqua4) numbered lists on the slides must not be centered 😄
Jay@jaystephens there IS an expensive market place of ideas?