TIL Proxmox refuses to support wifi and this is not documented anywhere.

That's extremely frustrating because I'm not the only person who has needed wifi support (my previous home I ONLY had wifi net access and could not do anything over a wire) and the threads I've found have all been met with frustrating silence from the Proxmox team about it.

That's beyond fucked up. >:(

@dragonarchitect is this proxmox the web-based vm management app?
@demicus yes that proxmox.

@dragonarchitect @demicus AFAIK they explicitly removed #WiFi from #Proxmox (which is based off #Debian) because they only target #rackmount|able-hardware and consider WiFi & #Bluetooth as mere 'sidechannel attack vectors'

  • One could just get one of those cheap WiFi->Ethernet bridges if wired etherenet cabling isn't an option as a workaround.

Obviously their take makes sense in a #datacenter envoirment (pretty shure #vmware #ESXi and #Microsoft's #HyperV don't do WiFi either!) because homelabbers who can't even afford cheap Gigabit-#Ethernet ain't their customer audience.

  • OFC that is annoying for those who don't have that luxury at hand!

@kkarhan @dragonarchitect @demicus Where did you read that, especially the "sidechannel attack vectors"? o.O
That's just FUD.

It's a restriction of WiFi itself - chipsets only support a single client, so bridges & co won't work and you need a NAT'd setup to begin with and other workarounds. It's also neither made not stable enough for 24/7.

But at the end of the day it's Debian, so you can configure it manually and there are forum threads on how.

@c8h4 @dragonarchitect @demicus well, I don't consider it that much of a FUD once you account for state-sponsired attackers on one end and PCI-DSS compliance on the other...

@kkarhan @dragonarchitect @demicus I mean yeah, but on the other hand, if you actually run such environments and compliance is needed, you are using proper server hardware - which won't have all that anyway.

Using consumer hardware - apart from its many other problems - is not suitable for such environments and will never be.

@c8h4 @dragonarchitect @demicus thus removing wifi support is a decision by the #Proxmox #developers to reduce headaches and potential issues straight-ahead.

  • They then can just say: "#WiFi is unsupported!" and tell people to use #Ethernet

OFC #Proxmox never intended folks to #homelab with consumer hardware like #ServeTheHome's #TinyMiniMicro series and @geerlingguy does…

  • Its just that they don't actively prevent such setups, but similar to #TrueNAS, #pfSense & #OPNsense see people using their stuff on #DIY hardware as free testers for their Software!
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TIL Proxmox refuses to support wifi and this is not documented anywhere. That's extremely frustrating because I'm not the only person who has needed wifi support (my previous home I ONLY had wifi net access and could not do anything over a wire) and the threads I've found have all been met with frustrating silence from the Proxmox team about it. That's beyond fucked up. >:(

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