Santa can keep the toys…
What we really want for Christmas: people before algorithms.
Santa can keep the toys…
What we really want for Christmas: people before algorithms.
@EUCommission thank you for taking time to respond!
I'm aware of these efforts and find them exceptionally valuable (and yes, we are the first!). I'm worried about the USA and its Big Tech trying to blackmail you (and us all) into weakening the protections for their profits by using tariffs and other threats.
I think I'll voice a popular opinion on Fediverse if I say that we got your back and we urge you not to surrender to their demands.
@Mnemosinee not exactly; people from the political parties (of your country) are elected to the European Commission, but it's typically not the government itself acting there.
@pantaRhei @grob @EUCommission ...elected how? When did we have the elections for the European Commission?
Is this not the government itself acting here? OK, now I'm curious... what do you think is your German government's role in taking decisions in the EU and making EU law?
@Mnemosinee the EU commission was last elected in June 2024 [1].
Looks like there is a confusion of the “European Commission“, the „European Council“ and the „Council of the EU“ (see [2] for the two latter).
Actually, this is the European Commission's Mastodon account, further information on it (and its role) can be found at [3].
[1] https://elections.europa.eu/en/commission-president/
[2] https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/council-eu/what-is-the-council/
@EUCommission Except for that one platform that exploits musicians, pays them 0.013 cents per stream as referenced in a fun Eurovision song, now plans to replace them with AI slop and donated millions to the fash Americans whose stated goal is to destroy the EU?
I love you, but why are you like this, lol?
https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission/115757212763776892
@EUCommission all I want for Christmas is an EC funding instrument for #openscience like the Dutch @OpenScienceNL
Despite all the points of improvements, it has been a great success that just begs for the EU equivalent
You cannot have better alternatives to addictive algorithms with a solid, independent foundation. So, fund it!
@EUCommission these algorithms should be opened up so that they can be studied and learned from.
By studying them it's much easier to understand whats under and how to make policy/law framework around these kinds of algorithms. When fully restricting something, how do u know they just go around and its again the same problem
Other things that you should say people before..:
- chat control
- authoritian ruling
- AI
@priscillaharing @EUCommission
Yes to getting off X 👍
But also to be fair they are already on their own Fedi server ( https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/explore ). Or do you mean start their own public server?
> Their Fediverse address shows the server they're on and it uses the EU's official domain europa.eu, so it proves they are running their own server.
That's just wrong. If you're unfamiliar with the concept of DNS, it just means they own the DOMAIN. Nothing else.
> It might be on their own hardware or it might be a hosting service, but either way it's under their control and ownership 🙂
Wrong again. If you look the IP up, it will solve to a fastly IP.
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And while fastly is likely to be used "only as a CDN" (read: to prevent DDoS and improve latency), it is nonetheless an american owned company, controlling ALL the traffic that goes in and out the server.
Now this does not mean they don't control their actual server, but it also absolutely doesn't mean they do.
And, to top it off, in regular EU style, they preach but don't do: they could absolutely use a European CDN.
Unless they are already US owned...
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Oh and I forgot to mention:
For such a CDN to work, fastly *MUST* have cleartext access to ALL the content, by stripping the TLS encryption at their edge.
So, yeah, no, in no way, shape, or form, does the EU own their server.
They own the domain, they might own the machine, but as it stands, they are otherwise to be considered a US entity.
No fucking wonder they are acting against our interests... Just check dump's agenda wrt the EU, if you're still confused. 🙃
@7heo https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/privacy-policy claims «All personal data in electronic format [...] are either on the servers of the European Commission [...], or of its contractors» (not so helpful), and that no consent is needed.
They do not state that personal data is transferred outside the EU/EAA but they do mention two USA companies to which they transfer data about fediverse users, Platinum Equity and Emplifi.
Note that MastodonSocial also transfer personal data of all users to the USA with Fastly.
Its contractors just have to be anyone with a presence in the EU, and a policy wrt GDPR.
That can be AWS, GCP, Azure, Oracle, Fastly, cloudfront, and many others.
I'm a "little bit" disgruntled by the behavior of the EU in general.
They clearly do *not* have our best interests at heart anymore. It just seems that they are trying very hard to muddy the waters so that it doesn't get too obvious that they are acting against our interest, before it is too late... 😐
I think we are talking at cross purposes?
On the Fediverse, the word "server" just means instance. It doesn't necessarily mean a particular piece of hardware. (For example see https://masto.host )
If you are running your own Fediverse instance, that means the same thing as running your own Fediverse server even if you're not actually running your own hardware server.
People who run their own instance can move their instance to other hosting options if they want to. The instance database contains the keys to keep their connections to other Fedi instances, and it can be transferred elsewhere.
If there is a problem on their current hosting, they can transfer their instance to a different hosting (including their own hardware if preferred) by pointing their domain name to the new host. Their instance is under their control and they can do whatever they want with it.
I've transferred Fedi instances between hosts and all you need is domain ownership plus a copy of the database.
It's this ability to switch hosting without losing the instance's social graphs that means the instance belongs to you.
@EUCommission Big words coming from someone wants to use AI for checking everyone's private messages/pictures.
Can you stop being a hypocrite for like 5 minutes? At this point you're as ridiculous as Russian & North Korean propagandists.
@EUCommission Hey EU Commission! Can you throw some of our tax euros at #Fediverse open source development projects?
Our combined GDP is more than 21 trillion euros. I’m pretty sure @Framasoft @Mastodon @IceCubesApp @ivory @Tusky etcetera could use a small amount of that?
We’ve got the products you want right here. Just support the people building them!!
@davidrevoy Problem: they don't want to, as they want to control the algorithms themselves.
Twitter is actually better off not being in the EU. I'm not from there, nor live there (I'm American), and yet, something seemed off about that wish from the EU.
Really?
Then how about linking to your Mastodon account from your home page?
And deleting the pro-AI social media accounts, such as X/Twitter?
I mean, that latter one is an American-based AI platform owned by someone openly hostile to the EU...
@EUCommission Except that this is what we want but the EU Commission doesn't want. People before algorithms doesn't pair well with chat control. Fairy tales about child trafficking but all we see is the exact opposite. As far as I am aware, I am not in the Epstein files, neither is any average citizen. We are seeing the collapse of the EU, member states are not even united on their policies.
The EU has failed to deliver on its claims after the US has abandoned it. Good luck fighting scary Russia without any US support. You chose the wrong "ally" and the wrong "enemy". We will not see you on the front lines.